Re: Would you drop bottom set?
 

Probably. But, I'm not hurting for $$$.

Re: Would you drop bottom set?
 

"The most likely holdings are JJ or 99, you are getting not quite 2 - 1, is he more than twice as likely to have a set than the other hands mentioned?"

He should have been significantly more than 2x as likely to have a draw in order for me to call since when he's drawing the odds would be similar, and when it's set-over-set, I'm a huge dog.

"My experience with good TAG's and this flop and this many players is he has a set."

Me too. But given my lack of extensive playing experience with this guy, I was wondering what others on this board thought.

Re: Would you drop bottom set?
 

I would take a second to push the slider all the way to the right and click "All In". I very rarely drop a set w 100BBs in a PF raised pot. BB could be pushing a range of hands here: 89s, T9s, 67s, 78s, J9, and also JJ and 99.

Re: Would you drop bottom set?
 

Against a pre-flop raiser I call instantly.

Re: Would you drop bottom set?
 

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Against a pre-flop raiser I call instantly.

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But in this case the pre flop raiser bet the pot and the TAG caller went all in over the top! Would you then call with bottom set, given the texture of the flop and TAG's image who pushed? What hands does he flat call a 5XBB raise that he comes over the top all in on the flop?

The funny thing is I have called in this position before and I was third best as it was set over set over set!! Anything can happen, we are making decisions under uncertainty, but given the likelihood of various holdings and the pot odds I would say calling is a negative EV play in this scenario.

Re: Would you drop bottom set?
 

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Instacall, of course. I imagine you called and lost to 99?

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Were those the results?

Re: Would you drop bottom set?
 

jen there is NOONE like you on this board anymore imo, i guess theres one playing that is more rocklike in the high stakes posters but even he is criticised for being easily readable and being pushed around by the agg UB players

btw, i play fairly loose and extremely aggressively, but i think being able to make huge laydowns, when its apparent im beat but im against folding a particular hand, more often would really help my game, so i try to think of things from that angle

i dont think the results matter here, the hand range and the odds are what matters

Re: Would you drop bottom set?
 

must be a joke. nothing to think about

Re: Would you drop bottom set?
 

Oh... I just read further. BB moved in... that changes things.

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100 BB you're not deep enough really. Just call. This is why we have $30K rolls for $10/20 nl, not $4000

Re: Would you drop bottom set?
 

making huge laydowns as a extremely aggressive player is not a good idea