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12-17-2005 02:58 AM

Re: WPT Final 6
 
Hand #71 - Patrik Antonius has the button in seat 2, he raises to $300,000, and Liu calls from the big blind. The flop comes Ac-7c-6h, and both players check. The turn card is the 3c (putting three clubs on the board), Liu bets $300,000, and Antonius calls. The river card is the 9d, Liu checks, Antonius bets $1,000,000, and Liu thinks for about two minutes before calling. Antonius shows 4-2 (the nut low) , and Liu shows A-J (pair of aces) to win.

The nut low - priceless. Maybe Antonius got confused for a sec. and thought this was triple draw.

And so much for Liu folding everything but the nuts.

TimTimSalabim 12-17-2005 03:02 AM

Re: WPT Final 6 (Clearly Official 5 Diamond Day 5 Thread)
 
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This was a resteal. He probably had a read that Antonius didn't have a strong hand. If Antonius folds, he picks up a 400K pot and maybe K3o won't be in too bad shape if heis called.

Notice Antonius made a small raise to 2.5xBB. The Unabomber undoubtably interpreted that as a weak attempt to steal the blinds.

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I miss Norm. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

A_C_Slater 12-17-2005 03:29 AM

Re: WPT Final 6 (Clearly Official 5 Diamond Day 5 Thread)
 
The blinds jump from 60,000/120,000/15,000ante to 100,000/200,000/20,000ante.

What a jopke.

betgo 12-17-2005 03:36 AM

Very close and Brunson in first
 
Place Poker Player Chip Count
1 Doyle Brunson $ 4,500,000
2 Joanne 'J.J.' Liu $ 4,000,000
3 Patrik Antonius $ 4,000,000
4 Rehne Pedersen $ 3,500,000

ononimo 12-17-2005 03:37 AM

Re: Very close and Brunson in first
 
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Place Poker Player Chip Count
1 Doyle Brunson $ 4,500,000
2 Joanne 'J.J.' Liu $ 4,000,000
3 Patrik Antonius $ 4,000,000
4 Rehne Pedersen $ 3,500,000

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looks like a direct transfer from Antonius to Doyle ...

Boris 12-17-2005 03:39 AM

Re: Very close and Brunson in first
 
doyle got stupid lucky.

psyduck 12-17-2005 03:40 AM

Re: Very close and Brunson in first
 
freaking donkey

Hand #88 - Rehne Pedersen has the button in seat 3, Antonius raises to $600,000, and Brunson calls from the big blind. The flop comes 8c-4s-2c, Brunson moves all in for $1,775,000, and Antonius immediately calls with pocket nines (9c-9s). Brunson shows 10h-8s (pocket eights), and he needs to catch an eight or a ten to stay alive.

The turn card is the 10c, and Brunson makes two pair! The crowd cheers louder than they have all night -- they're rooting for Doyle after all! Now Antonius needs to catch a nine or a club to bust Brunson. The river card is the 4h, and Doyle Brunson doubles up to about $5 million to take the chip lead.

12-17-2005 03:42 AM

Re: WPT Final 6 (Clearly Official 5 Diamond Day 5 Thread)
 
This always seems to happen. 2 or 3 exciting players make the final table in a WPT event alongside 3 or 4 no-names, and the exciting players get knocked out early. I was hoping that Laak, Brunson, and Dicken would go at it, but NOOOOO. Once again, the cool players are out, with Brunson being the only one left I care about.

12-17-2005 03:50 AM

Re: WPT Final 6 (Clearly Official 5 Diamond Day 5 Thread)
 
10h-8s (pocket eights) lol

Kyo Souma II 12-17-2005 03:57 AM

Re: WPT Final 6 (Clearly Official 5 Diamond Day 5 Thread)
 
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This always seems to happen. 2 or 3 exciting players make the final table in a WPT event alongside 3 or 4 no-names, and the exciting players get knocked out early.

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Hey! Patrik Antonius excites me.

-kyo

12-17-2005 03:57 AM

Re: WPT Final 6
 
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d'oh! [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
still friends?

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I would have it no other way.

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Hand #103 - Patrik Antonius has the button in seat 2, Brunson raises to $600,000, Antonius moves all in for about $5.5 million, and Brunson asks Tournament Director Jack McClelland how much time is left at the current level of blinds. The answer is 14 minutes, and the blinds increase by big jumps here on the World Poker Tour. Brunson weighs the factors, and decides to fold. Antonius takes the pot.

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What range of hands would Doyle have here to make him factor in the blind change? Something like choosing to gamble with 22-55?

captZEEbo1 12-17-2005 03:58 AM

Re: WPT Final 6 (Clearly Official 5 Diamond Day 5 Thread)
 
hey everyone, if you don't know who patrik antonious is, he's the guy that recently was playing 200/400 NL vs prahlad, and was doing VERY well.
linky
some fun hands in there, and I think the biggest pot in online history was in there somewhere too....I think it was like a 200k pot.

part2

Kyo Souma II 12-17-2005 04:23 AM

Re: WPT Final 6 (Clearly Official 5 Diamond Day 5 Thread)
 
Hand #119 - Patrik Antonius has the button in seat 2, he moves all in, and Pedersen calls all in (for $2,785,000) with pocket queens (Qh-Qd). Antonius shows 8s-5d, and he'll need to improve to eliminate Pedersen. The flop comes Jd-9s-2s, and Antonius will need something runner-runner to survive. The turn card is the Ks, and that gives Antonius a flush draw, and he can with with a spade on the river. But the last card is the 10d, and Rehne Pedersen doubles up to nearly $6 million in chips.

The old hoyt corkins strategy?

psyduck 12-17-2005 04:32 AM

Re: WPT Final 6 (Clearly Official 5 Diamond Day 5 Thread)
 
everyone has close to BB now. PUSHBOT ICM POKER, HERE WE COME

jeffraider 12-17-2005 04:36 AM

Re: WPT Final 6 (Clearly Official 5 Diamond Day 5 Thread)
 
They could clearly use some work on their pushbot skills!

12-17-2005 04:59 AM

Re: WPT Final 6
 
The WPT is really doing a disservice with these huge blinds. If any of us were still in it we would be about even money with these guys. This should not end like a SNG with $2 million on the line.

Kyo Souma II 12-17-2005 05:17 AM

Re: WPT Final 6
 
Like every WPT event since the second season, you mean?

12-17-2005 05:21 AM

Doyle\'s out
 
Date / Time: 2005-12-17 01:06:00
Title: Doyle Brunson Eliminated in 3rd Place ($563,485)
Log:
Hand #146 - Doyle Brunson has the button in seat 6, he moves all in, and Pedersen immediately calls from the big blind with pocket kings (Kc-Ks). Brunson shows Kh-Js, and he is severely dominated here with his tournament life on the line.

The flop comes 10c-6s-3s, and Brunson will need something runner-runner to survive. The turn card is the Qh, and Brunson has picked up an open-ended straight draw, and he needs a nine or a king to stay alive. But the river card is the 8c, and Doyle Brunson is eliminated in third place, earning $563,485.

The next player eliminated will receive $1,046,470 for second place, while the winner will walk away with $2,078,185.

There will be a short break as they prepare for the money presentation, followed by heads-up play.

12-17-2005 05:35 AM

Re: Doyle\'s out
 
Hey Daryn, what do you think about the all those victims of the quake in Pakistan?

daryn 12-17-2005 05:40 AM

Re: Doyle\'s out
 
does anyone care?

answer: no

12-17-2005 05:50 AM

Re: Doyle\'s out
 
Man that's harsh.

Yeti 12-17-2005 06:10 AM

Re: Doyle\'s out
 
Just woke up!

Gigabet seems unnaturally good at getting the money in with a dominated hand.

KINGOFINLAND 12-17-2005 06:24 AM

Re: Doyle\'s out
 
Hand #170 - Patrik Antonius has the button, he moves all in, and Pedersen immediately calls with Ad-4d. Antonius is dominated As-Ks. Pedersen needs to improve to stay alive here, as Antonius has a few more chips.

The flop comes 7h-6s-5d, and Pedersen picks up an open-ended straight draw, and he suddenly has a lot of outs. The turn card is the 3s, and Pedersen hits his straight. But now Antonius has picked up a flush draw, and lots of people in the audience start chanting, "Spade! Spade! Spade! Spade!"

The river card is the 10h, and Rehne Pedersen wins the hand with a seven-high straight to double up in chips. The new chip counts:

Rehne Pedersen - $16,500,000
Patrik Antonius - $150,000

Hand #171 - Rehne Pedersen has the button, and Antonius is forced all in for the big blind. The players flip over their cards, and Antonius has Ks-7s against Pedersen's pocket eights (8c-8s). Antonius needs to improve to stay alive.

The flop comes 9d-6c-3s, and Pedersen retains the lead. The turn card is the 3c, and Antonius needs to catch a king to survive. The river card is the Jc, and Patrik Antonius is eliminated in second place, earning $1,046,470.

Rehne Pedersen wins the 2005 WPT Bellagio Five Diamond World Poker Classic, winning $2,078,185, a gold-and-diamond bracelet, and a $25,500 entry into the season-ending WPT World Championship.

Jakob 12-17-2005 06:26 AM

Re: Doyle\'s out
 
Yesssss Forza Denmark.. Good job Carlos!

Kyo Souma II 12-17-2005 06:42 AM

Re: Doyle\'s out
 
Just for comparison's sake...

WSOP HU: 150k/300k A50k, you can chop. 56,000,000 in play.
WPT HU: 300k/600k A50k, you can't chop. 16,500,000 in play.

ClassicBob 12-17-2005 08:06 AM

Re: Doyle\'s out
 
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Just for comparison's sake...

WSOP HU: 150k/300k A50k, you can chop. 56,000,000 in play.
WPT HU: 300k/600k A50k, you can't chop. 16,500,000 in play.

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This is so unfortunate. I don't think this is in Bloch's list of arguments regarding WPT boycotts, but it sure as hell should be.

By the time it was 4 handed, it basically became a sit-and-go. I'm sure the players are grateful to the WPT for helping to increase the prize pools, but it's ludicrous that you should have to play pushbot poker when the difference in prize money between 6th and 1st is more than 1.8 million.

12-17-2005 08:44 AM

Re: Doyle\'s out
 
the crapshoot started from start to finish. and people say the winner of the wtp championship should be crowned the world champion of poker, bahahahahhaha.

12-17-2005 11:33 AM

Re: Doyle\'s out
 
Antonius deserved to win... his selective aggression was perfect, and he was making dead on reads. The only mistake was the move in with 85o and getting called, but even then he was still in contention. Also, he was in a dominating position to win with the AKs on the second last hand.

Bad beat. Antonius dominated this tournament.

Sponger15SB 12-17-2005 11:42 AM

Re: Doyle\'s out
 
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Just for comparison's sake...

WSOP HU: 150k/300k A50k, you can chop. 56,000,000 in play.
WPT HU: 300k/600k A50k, you can't chop. 16,500,000 in play.

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So pathetic. I would be pissed if I were the players. Yay for $1,000,000 coinflips.


I'm wondering. Couldn't the last two players just demand that the blinds be rolled back? What is stopping them? Why don't they just say they won't play it out and will fold every hand without looking? Or how about they just leave the table?

Could this really happen?

valenzuela 12-17-2005 11:57 AM

Re: Doyle\'s out
 
im sure the weaker player doesnt mind the blind structure.

SmileyEH 12-17-2005 12:27 PM

Re: Doyle\'s out
 
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im sure the weaker player doesnt mind the blind structure.

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Exactly, if I stumbled into a WPT final table with Brunson, Gigabet, Antonius etc. 10BB stakcs would suit me just fine!

-SmileyEH

Quicksilvre 12-17-2005 12:29 PM

Re: Doyle\'s out
 
Comparatively shorter stacks would increase the luck factor. Assuming that you're a weaker player, your winning percentage would increase.

Army Eye 12-17-2005 03:35 PM

Re: Doyle\'s out
 
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This is so unfortunate. I don't think this is in Bloch's list of arguments regarding WPT boycotts, but it sure as hell should be.

By the time it was 4 handed, it basically became a sit-and-go. I'm sure the players are grateful to the WPT for helping to increase the prize pools, but it's ludicrous that you should have to play pushbot poker when the difference in prize money between 6th and 1st is more than 1.8 million.

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Paul Phillips is done with WPT for that reason. I'm kind of surprised more pros haven't come out against it, especially with so many other $10k tournaments as alternatives.

It's almost comical. In this Five Diamond main event, you have an amazingly good structure to determine spots 7th through 555th, and then when you have two-third of the prize pool on the line, to be distributed among the final six, it turns into a turbo SNG, all because the WPT guys want to go home early. They can't be bothered to work a full day, it's only a meager $6 million dollar tournament after all..

Solitare 12-17-2005 05:37 PM

Re: Doyle\'s out
 
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im sure the weaker player doesnt mind the blind structure.

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While the stronger players may not like the fast blind structure of these WPT TV tournaments, my guess is that they will take the increased payouts that the WPT has enabled as more than adequate compensation.

Copernicus 12-18-2005 01:17 PM

Re: Doyle\'s out
 
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Paul Phillips is done with WPT for that reason.
o home early.

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If anyone could benefit from a fast blind structure its Paul Phillips.

betgo 12-18-2005 01:59 PM

Re: Doyle\'s out
 
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Paul Phillips is done with WPT for that reason.
o home early.

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If anyone could benefit from a fast blind structure its Paul Phillips.

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Yeh, he's good with math, aggressive, and plays to win.

betgo 12-18-2005 02:24 PM

Re: Doyle\'s out
 
I think it is kind of silly to play deep stacks all along and the final table this way.

I mostly play turbo SNGs and multi table turbo SNGs full time. So if I made the final table, Brunson and them wouldn't have much of an advantage over me with this structure.

12-19-2005 05:10 PM

Antonius
 
It's nice to see Antonius performing well as I'm a Finn myself too. Guys background is in casino, and he moved to online poker after learning the game face-to-face. At least in Finland many think that Antonius is the best online player in the world currently, though that kind of ranking is pretty impossible to do. In a recent interview Patrik told that online poker is his job, but live tournaments are the ones that he enjoys.

12-20-2005 05:45 AM

Re: Antonius
 
obviously you guys have never played high stakes "war". if you had you wouldn't be complaining about the final table structure.

Sponger15SB 12-20-2005 12:18 PM

Re: Doyle\'s out
 
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Paul Phillips is done with WPT for that reason.
o home early.

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If anyone could benefit from a fast blind structure its Paul Phillips.

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Yes, and if anyone could benefit from a slow blind structure its Paul Phillips.


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