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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] equity (%) win (%) tie (%) Hand 1: 72.3232 % 72.32% 00.00% { JdTd } Hand 2: 27.6768 % 27.68% 00.00% { 2c2s } [/ QUOTE ] What is this crap? Let me explain this simply for you retards. SPONGER HAS A PAIR ALREADY! HIS OPPONENT ONLY HAS JACK-HIGH. JACK HIGH!!!!!!!! [/ QUOTE ]I hope you are kidding. [/ QUOTE ] http://www.wedoitallvegas.com/Rank_O...ands_Chart.asp [/ QUOTE ]I know what after the flop, the villain is losing... however he has the odds to win the hand, what's the problem? [/ QUOTE ] ANY PAIR IS WAY BETTER THAN JACK-HIGH! HOW F'ING HARD IS THAT TO UNDERSTAND? DO YOU EVEN KNOW THE RULES OF POKER? GODDAMMIT THIS IS GETTING OLD. [/ QUOTE ]The villain has 21 outs on both the turn and the river, goddamn it! Do you know what this means? [/ QUOTE ] Sponger has a pair. His opponent has Jack-high. DO THE MATH. WHO HAS THE BETTER HAND? THIS IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE!!!! [/ QUOTE ] i don't understand this. how'd you get to 15,000 posts on this forum?? i thought you were a respected poster here??? you're wrong and these other guys with 10 or 12 posts are right!! you're gonna feel pretty embarrassed when you realize your mistake!!! [/ QUOTE ] and i though I WAS GULLIBLE, lol. Barron [/ QUOTE ] what are you trying to say, barron? that diablo isn't wrong??? or that he was just joking??? puh-leeeeze. i don't buy that for a second! maybe he has finally realized his error and feels really silly now, so he'll try to pass it off as another one of his "jokes," but he was OBVIOUSLY serious at first. this is your chance to mock him mercilessly on his big mistake! if i were you, i'd pursue it with extreme aggressivity! go get 'im, barron! [/ QUOTE ] The new insta-quote button is da sh1znizzl3! [/ QUOTE ] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] See, all I need to do is click "Quote" at the the top of each post, and it automatically quotes the entire post with the quote boxes and everything. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think that's new. [/ QUOTE ] Well it's new to me. [/ QUOTE ] wtf are you guys using for equity? i put this through pokerstove equity (%) win (%) tie (%) Hand 1: 17.3232 % 82.32% 00.00% { JdTd } Hand 2: 82.6768 % 17.68% 00.00% { 2c2s } |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] equity (%) win (%) tie (%) Hand 1: 72.3232 % 72.32% 00.00% { JdTd } Hand 2: 27.6768 % 27.68% 00.00% { 2c2s } [/ QUOTE ] What is this crap? Let me explain this simply for you retards. SPONGER HAS A PAIR ALREADY! HIS OPPONENT ONLY HAS JACK-HIGH. JACK HIGH!!!!!!!! [/ QUOTE ]I hope you are kidding. [/ QUOTE ] http://www.wedoitallvegas.com/Rank_O...ands_Chart.asp [/ QUOTE ]I know what after the flop, the villain is losing... however he has the odds to win the hand, what's the problem? [/ QUOTE ] ANY PAIR IS WAY BETTER THAN JACK-HIGH! HOW F'ING HARD IS THAT TO UNDERSTAND? DO YOU EVEN KNOW THE RULES OF POKER? GODDAMMIT THIS IS GETTING OLD. [/ QUOTE ]The villain has 21 outs on both the turn and the river, goddamn it! Do you know what this means? [/ QUOTE ] Sponger has a pair. His opponent has Jack-high. DO THE MATH. WHO HAS THE BETTER HAND? THIS IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE!!!! [/ QUOTE ] i don't understand this. how'd you get to 15,000 posts on this forum?? i thought you were a respected poster here??? you're wrong and these other guys with 10 or 12 posts are right!! you're gonna feel pretty embarrassed when you realize your mistake!!! [/ QUOTE ] and i though I WAS GULLIBLE, lol. Barron [/ QUOTE ] what are you trying to say, barron? that diablo isn't wrong??? or that he was just joking??? puh-leeeeze. i don't buy that for a second! maybe he has finally realized his error and feels really silly now, so he'll try to pass it off as another one of his "jokes," but he was OBVIOUSLY serious at first. this is your chance to mock him mercilessly on his big mistake! if i were you, i'd pursue it with extreme aggressivity! go get 'im, barron! [/ QUOTE ] The new insta-quote button is da sh1znizzl3! [/ QUOTE ] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] See, all I need to do is click "Quote" at the the top of each post, and it automatically quotes the entire post with the quote boxes and everything. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think that's new. [/ QUOTE ] Well it's new to me. [/ QUOTE ] wtf are you guys using for equity? i put this through pokerstove equity (%) win (%) tie (%) Hand 1: 17.3232 % 82.32% 00.00% { JdTd } Hand 2: 82.6768 % 17.68% 00.00% { 2c2s } [/ QUOTE ] nice1 |
Re: Stupid bluffing idiots that get lucky
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] equity (%) win (%) tie (%) Hand 1: 72.3232 % 72.32% 00.00% { JdTd } Hand 2: 27.6768 % 27.68% 00.00% { 2c2s } [/ QUOTE ] What is this crap? Let me explain this simply for you retards. SPONGER HAS A PAIR ALREADY! HIS OPPONENT ONLY HAS JACK-HIGH. JACK HIGH!!!!!!!! [/ QUOTE ]I hope you are kidding. [/ QUOTE ] http://www.wedoitallvegas.com/Rank_O...ands_Chart.asp [/ QUOTE ]I know what after the flop, the villain is losing... however he has the odds to win the hand, what's the problem? [/ QUOTE ] ANY PAIR IS WAY BETTER THAN JACK-HIGH! HOW F'ING HARD IS THAT TO UNDERSTAND? DO YOU EVEN KNOW THE RULES OF POKER? GODDAMMIT THIS IS GETTING OLD. [/ QUOTE ]The villain has 21 outs on both the turn and the river, goddamn it! Do you know what this means? [/ QUOTE ] Sponger has a pair. His opponent has Jack-high. DO THE MATH. WHO HAS THE BETTER HAND? THIS IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE!!!! [/ QUOTE ] i don't understand this. how'd you get to 15,000 posts on this forum?? i thought you were a respected poster here??? you're wrong and these other guys with 10 or 12 posts are right!! you're gonna feel pretty embarrassed when you realize your mistake!!! [/ QUOTE ] and i though I WAS GULLIBLE, lol. Barron [/ QUOTE ] what are you trying to say, barron? that diablo isn't wrong??? or that he was just joking??? puh-leeeeze. i don't buy that for a second! maybe he has finally realized his error and feels really silly now, so he'll try to pass it off as another one of his "jokes," but he was OBVIOUSLY serious at first. this is your chance to mock him mercilessly on his big mistake! if i were you, i'd pursue it with extreme aggressivity! go get 'im, barron! [/ QUOTE ] The new insta-quote button is da sh1znizzl3! [/ QUOTE ] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] See, all I need to do is click "Quote" at the the top of each post, and it automatically quotes the entire post with the quote boxes and everything. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think that's new. [/ QUOTE ] Well it's new to me. [/ QUOTE ] wtf are you guys using for equity? i put this through pokerstove equity (%) win (%) tie (%) Hand 1: 17.3232 % 82.32% 00.00% { JdTd } Hand 2: 82.6768 % 17.68% 00.00% { 2c2s } [/ QUOTE ] nice1 [/ QUOTE ] ty |
Re: Stupid bluffing idiots that get lucky
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] equity (%) win (%) tie (%) Hand 1: 72.3232 % 72.32% 00.00% { JdTd } Hand 2: 27.6768 % 27.68% 00.00% { 2c2s } [/ QUOTE ] What is this crap? Let me explain this simply for you retards. SPONGER HAS A PAIR ALREADY! HIS OPPONENT ONLY HAS JACK-HIGH. JACK HIGH!!!!!!!! [/ QUOTE ]I hope you are kidding. [/ QUOTE ] http://www.wedoitallvegas.com/Rank_O...ands_Chart.asp [/ QUOTE ]I know what after the flop, the villain is losing... however he has the odds to win the hand, what's the problem? [/ QUOTE ] ANY PAIR IS WAY BETTER THAN JACK-HIGH! HOW F'ING HARD IS THAT TO UNDERSTAND? DO YOU EVEN KNOW THE RULES OF POKER? GODDAMMIT THIS IS GETTING OLD. [/ QUOTE ]The villain has 21 outs on both the turn and the river, goddamn it! Do you know what this means? [/ QUOTE ] Sponger has a pair. His opponent has Jack-high. DO THE MATH. WHO HAS THE BETTER HAND? THIS IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE!!!! [/ QUOTE ] i don't understand this. how'd you get to 15,000 posts on this forum?? i thought you were a respected poster here??? you're wrong and these other guys with 10 or 12 posts are right!! you're gonna feel pretty embarrassed when you realize your mistake!!! [/ QUOTE ] and i though I WAS GULLIBLE, lol. Barron [/ QUOTE ] Barron can you explain what you mean by that post? |
Re: Stupid bluffing idiots that get lucky
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] equity (%) win (%) tie (%) Hand 1: 72.3232 % 72.32% 00.00% { JdTd } Hand 2: 27.6768 % 27.68% 00.00% { 2c2s } [/ QUOTE ] What is this crap? Let me explain this simply for you retards. SPONGER HAS A PAIR ALREADY! HIS OPPONENT ONLY HAS JACK-HIGH. JACK HIGH!!!!!!!! [/ QUOTE ]I hope you are kidding. [/ QUOTE ] http://www.wedoitallvegas.com/Rank_O...ands_Chart.asp [/ QUOTE ]I know what after the flop, the villain is losing... however he has the odds to win the hand, what's the problem? [/ QUOTE ] ANY PAIR IS WAY BETTER THAN JACK-HIGH! HOW F'ING HARD IS THAT TO UNDERSTAND? DO YOU EVEN KNOW THE RULES OF POKER? GODDAMMIT THIS IS GETTING OLD. [/ QUOTE ]The villain has 21 outs on both the turn and the river, goddamn it! Do you know what this means? [/ QUOTE ] Sponger has a pair. His opponent has Jack-high. DO THE MATH. WHO HAS THE BETTER HAND? THIS IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE!!!! [/ QUOTE ] i don't understand this. how'd you get to 15,000 posts on this forum?? i thought you were a respected poster here??? you're wrong and these other guys with 10 or 12 posts are right!! you're gonna feel pretty embarrassed when you realize your mistake!!! [/ QUOTE ] and i though I WAS GULLIBLE, lol. Barron [/ QUOTE ] Barron can you explain what you mean by that post? [/ QUOTE ] I don't mean to put words in his mouth, but it's obvious he meant, how could someone be so gullible as to think jack high is a better hand than a pair. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] equity (%) win (%) tie (%) Hand 1: 72.3232 % 72.32% 00.00% { JdTd } Hand 2: 27.6768 % 27.68% 00.00% { 2c2s } [/ QUOTE ] What is this crap? Let me explain this simply for you retards. SPONGER HAS A PAIR ALREADY! HIS OPPONENT ONLY HAS JACK-HIGH. JACK HIGH!!!!!!!! [/ QUOTE ]I hope you are kidding. [/ QUOTE ] http://www.wedoitallvegas.com/Rank_O...ands_Chart.asp [/ QUOTE ]I know what after the flop, the villain is losing... however he has the odds to win the hand, what's the problem? [/ QUOTE ] ANY PAIR IS WAY BETTER THAN JACK-HIGH! HOW F'ING HARD IS THAT TO UNDERSTAND? DO YOU EVEN KNOW THE RULES OF POKER? GODDAMMIT THIS IS GETTING OLD. [/ QUOTE ]The villain has 21 outs on both the turn and the river, goddamn it! Do you know what this means? [/ QUOTE ] Sponger has a pair. His opponent has Jack-high. DO THE MATH. WHO HAS THE BETTER HAND? THIS IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE!!!! [/ QUOTE ] i don't understand this. how'd you get to 15,000 posts on this forum?? i thought you were a respected poster here??? you're wrong and these other guys with 10 or 12 posts are right!! you're gonna feel pretty embarrassed when you realize your mistake!!! [/ QUOTE ] and i though I WAS GULLIBLE, lol. Barron [/ QUOTE ] what are you trying to say, barron? that diablo isn't wrong??? or that he was just joking??? puh-leeeeze. i don't buy that for a second! maybe he has finally realized his error and feels really silly now, so he'll try to pass it off as another one of his "jokes," but he was OBVIOUSLY serious at first. this is your chance to mock him mercilessly on his big mistake! if i were you, i'd pursue it with extreme aggressivity! go get 'im, barron! [/ QUOTE ] The new insta-quote button is da sh1znizzl3! [/ QUOTE ] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] See, all I need to do is click "Quote" at the the top of each post, and it automatically quotes the entire post with the quote boxes and everything. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think that's new. [/ QUOTE ] Well it's new to me. [/ QUOTE ] wtf are you guys using for equity? i put this through pokerstove equity (%) win (%) tie (%) Hand 1: 17.3232 % 82.32% 00.00% { JdTd } Hand 2: 82.6768 % 17.68% 00.00% { 2c2s } [/ QUOTE ] nice1 [/ QUOTE ] ty [/ QUOTE ] I believe strongly that Cardplayer skewed its pot odds caculator to take into account the average riggedness of online poker. I have no idea how else they could have JT as a favourite over 22. |
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OK, I gotta chime in here with 3 comments:
1) I love this forum, as it let's me interact with total psychos who don't post in my usual forum. It's a whole new world! 2) 2+2 needs to double their server capacity since adding the "quote" button. Also, if you print out these uber-quote replies, they make good dart boards 3) Please, for the love of god, PLEASE tell me massive amounts of alcohol were involved in the OP. You must use "second level" thinking - ie. it's SOOOOOOOOOO stupid it can't possible be sarcastic, he must really be that stupid. On the other hand, I think Diablo is my new hero. |
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Oh the hypocrisy. Diablo busts Mason's ass over an error but then can't own up to a massive mistake like this. Though in El D's defense, he's not quibbling over semantics or retreating from his former position, he is instead employing a strategy of increasing belligerence to make his case.
BTW, it's a coinflip when the money goes in, 50/50, JTd either hits his hand or he doesn't. Don't give me that over 1 million hands X is favored BS, Sponger is only playing one hand. Duh. |
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Oh the hypocrisy. Diablo busts Mason's ass over an error but then can't own up to a massive mistake like this. Though in El D's defense, he's not quibbling over semantics or retreating from his former position, he is instead employing a strategy of increasing belligerence to make his case. [/ QUOTE ] shut up nit, and get a sense of humor. |
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[ QUOTE ] Oh the hypocrisy. Diablo busts Mason's ass over an error but then can't own up to a massive mistake like this. Though in El D's defense, he's not quibbling over semantics or retreating from his former position, he is instead employing a strategy of increasing belligerence to make his case. [/ QUOTE ] shut up nit, and get a sense of humor. [/ QUOTE ] Quoted so you can't edit once you finish reading my post. |
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give me the made hand everytime.
donkeys always draw. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Sponger has a pair. His opponent has Jack-high. DO THE MATH. WHO HAS THE BETTER HAND? THIS IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE!!!! [/ QUOTE ] i don't understand this. how'd you get to 15,000 posts on this forum?? i thought you were a respected poster here??? you're wrong and these other guys with 10 or 12 posts are right!! you're gonna feel pretty embarrassed when you realize your mistake!!! [/ QUOTE ] and i though I WAS GULLIBLE, lol. Barron [/ QUOTE ] Irony at its finest. Yep, Barron, you've once again successfully defended your "most gullible" title. |
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[ QUOTE ] Oh the hypocrisy. Diablo busts Mason's ass over an error but then can't own up to a massive mistake like this. Though in El D's defense, he's not quibbling over semantics or retreating from his former position, he is instead employing a strategy of increasing belligerence to make his case. [/ QUOTE ] shut up nit, and get a sense of humor. [/ QUOTE ] Barron? |
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Quoted so you can't edit once you finish reading my post. [/ QUOTE ] i concede: my previous post has no merit and detracts from this thread. so does this one. [censored]. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Oh the hypocrisy. Diablo busts Mason's ass over an error but then can't own up to a massive mistake like this. Though in El D's defense, he's not quibbling over semantics or retreating from his former position, he is instead employing a strategy of increasing belligerence to make his case. [/ QUOTE ] shut up nit, and get a sense of humor. [/ QUOTE ] Quoted so you can't edit once you finish reading my post. [/ QUOTE ] "lol" |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] equity (%) win (%) tie (%) Hand 1: 72.3232 % 72.32% 00.00% { JdTd } Hand 2: 27.6768 % 27.68% 00.00% { 2c2s } [/ QUOTE ] What is this crap? Let me explain this simply for you retards. SPONGER HAS A PAIR ALREADY! HIS OPPONENT ONLY HAS JACK-HIGH. JACK HIGH!!!!!!!! [/ QUOTE ]I hope you are kidding. [/ QUOTE ] http://www.wedoitallvegas.com/Rank_O...ands_Chart.asp [/ QUOTE ]I know what after the flop, the villain is losing... however he has the odds to win the hand, what's the problem? [/ QUOTE ] ANY PAIR IS WAY BETTER THAN JACK-HIGH! HOW F'ING HARD IS THAT TO UNDERSTAND? DO YOU EVEN KNOW THE RULES OF POKER? GODDAMMIT THIS IS GETTING OLD. [/ QUOTE ]The villain has 21 outs on both the turn and the river, goddamn it! Do you know what this means? [/ QUOTE ] Sponger has a pair. His opponent has Jack-high. DO THE MATH. WHO HAS THE BETTER HAND? THIS IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE!!!! [/ QUOTE ] i don't understand this. how'd you get to 15,000 posts on this forum?? i thought you were a respected poster here??? you're wrong and these other guys with 10 or 12 posts are right!! you're gonna feel pretty embarrassed when you realize your mistake!!! [/ QUOTE ] and i though I WAS GULLIBLE, lol. Barron [/ QUOTE ] what are you trying to say, barron? that diablo isn't wrong??? or that he was just joking??? puh-leeeeze. i don't buy that for a second! maybe he has finally realized his error and feels really silly now, so he'll try to pass it off as another one of his "jokes," but he was OBVIOUSLY serious at first. this is your chance to mock him mercilessly on his big mistake! if i were you, i'd pursue it with extreme aggressivity! go get 'im, barron! [/ QUOTE ] The new insta-quote button is da sh1znizzl3! [/ QUOTE ] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] See, all I need to do is click "Quote" at the the top of each post, and it automatically quotes the entire post with the quote boxes and everything. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think that's new. [/ QUOTE ] Well it's new to me. [/ QUOTE ] wtf are you guys using for equity? i put this through pokerstove equity (%) win (%) tie (%) Hand 1: 17.3232 % 82.32% 00.00% { JdTd } Hand 2: 82.6768 % 17.68% 00.00% { 2c2s } [/ QUOTE ] I don't get it... |
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[ QUOTE ] Sorry, you're an underdog with 22 vs his straight flush draw + 2 overcards. [/ QUOTE ] No he isn't? What the [censored] are you talking about? Look at the flop, he has jack high, I have a pair. Btw... *** You are ignoring this user *** Buh-bye [/ QUOTE ] Your in luck Sponger god told me to help the ignorant today. Get a FREE copy of pokerstove and run the hand. Enlightenment is only a mouse click away. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] |
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isn't pokerstove free?
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[ QUOTE ] equity (%) win (%) tie (%) Hand 1: 72.3232 % 72.32% 00.00% { JdTd } Hand 2: 27.6768 % 27.68% 00.00% { 2c2s } [/ QUOTE ] What is this crap? Let me explain this simply for you retards. SPONGER HAS A PAIR ALREADY! HIS OPPONENT ONLY HAS JACK-HIGH. JACK HIGH!!!!!!!! [/ QUOTE ] Your F@#$%$@ killing me [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] |
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I would of called with a suited connector
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****** FLAME ******
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Any idiot knows that JT suited heads up is a SIGNIFICANT underdog to a pair lower than tens. A pair of twos usually has AT BEST one overcard against it. This is a bad beat if I've ever seen one, you guys need to re-evaluate your hand rankings obviously... The fact that he had a STRAIGHT FLUSH DRAW is insignificant, as the jack made him a bigger pair... I mean, there are only THREE jacks left in the deck, what are the odds that Villain would catch a JACK on the river?
Seriously though, one question for OP, what would you do if you had your opponents hand and you flopped a straight flush draw, would you fold, obviously knowing that you're beat, and if you wind up winning you will have dished out a "bad beat," thus folding is best because AT THE MOMENT you don't have the best hand and making the best hand is likely, but not guaranteed, or would you call knowing that you're a FAVORITE against almost any hand against you? I think the choice is clear, and YOU need to understand that this is in no way a "suckout." |
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So I'm playing a HU SNG on pokerstars and I pick up 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Villian has about 1700 chips to my 1300. Blinds are 10/20 I make the standard 3bb raise. Villian calls. Flop is 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and Villian Pushes. Now, I haven't played that many hands with Villian, but he is extremely agressive and I don't think he has much. So I make the call, and sure enough he has J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]! Sweet! Turn is a blank, and River is a T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Just another example of me making an incredible read with a marginal hand, and having some stupid moron suckout on me. God I [censored] hate poker. [/ QUOTE ] this story is 100 times better if it goes turn 4 river 8... fish!!! |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] equity (%) win (%) tie (%) Hand 1: 72.3232 % 72.32% 00.00% { JdTd } Hand 2: 27.6768 % 27.68% 00.00% { 2c2s } [/ QUOTE ] What is this crap? Let me explain this simply for you retards. SPONGER HAS A PAIR ALREADY! HIS OPPONENT ONLY HAS JACK-HIGH. JACK HIGH!!!!!!!! [/ QUOTE ]I hope you are kidding. [/ QUOTE ] http://www.wedoitallvegas.com/Rank_O...ands_Chart.asp [/ QUOTE ]I know what after the flop, the villain is losing... however he has the odds to win the hand, what's the problem? [/ QUOTE ] ANY PAIR IS WAY BETTER THAN JACK-HIGH! HOW F'ING HARD IS THAT TO UNDERSTAND? DO YOU EVEN KNOW THE RULES OF POKER? GODDAMMIT THIS IS GETTING OLD. [/ QUOTE ]The villain has 21 outs on both the turn and the river, goddamn it! Do you know what this means? [/ QUOTE ] Sponger has a pair. His opponent has Jack-high. DO THE MATH. WHO HAS THE BETTER HAND? THIS IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE!!!! [/ QUOTE ] i don't understand this. how'd you get to 15,000 posts on this forum?? i thought you were a respected poster here??? you're wrong and these other guys with 10 or 12 posts are right!! you're gonna feel pretty embarrassed when you realize your mistake!!! [/ QUOTE ] and i though I WAS GULLIBLE, lol. Barron [/ QUOTE ] what are you trying to say, barron? that diablo isn't wrong??? or that he was just joking??? puh-leeeeze. i don't buy that for a second! maybe he has finally realized his error and feels really silly now, so he'll try to pass it off as another one of his "jokes," but he was OBVIOUSLY serious at first. this is your chance to mock him mercilessly on his big mistake! if i were you, i'd pursue it with extreme aggressivity! go get 'im, barron! [/ QUOTE ] The new insta-quote button is da sh1znizzl3! [/ QUOTE ] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] See, all I need to do is click "Quote" at the the top of each post, and it automatically quotes the entire post with the quote boxes and everything. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think that's new. [/ QUOTE ] Well it's new to me. [/ QUOTE ] wtf are you guys using for equity? i put this through pokerstove equity (%) win (%) tie (%) Hand 1: 17.3232 % 82.32% 00.00% { JdTd } Hand 2: 82.6768 % 17.68% 00.00% { 2c2s } [/ QUOTE ] nice1 [/ QUOTE ] ty [/ QUOTE ] I believe strongly that Cardplayer skewed its pot odds caculator to take into account the average riggedness of online poker. I have no idea how else they could have JT as a favourite over 22. [/ QUOTE ] I think Cardplayer must grant villain a few outs for folding equity...very sophisticated bit of software (although obviously not functioning properly) [/ QUOTE ] this thread needs to be wider |
Re: Stupid bluffing idiots that get lucky
Look, there seems to be a lot of debate on this subject and, in my opinion, it's all for naught.
A number of respected posters are saying that Sponger has a pair. And really, that's a pretty fair analysis. A pair can beat a lot of things. Jack high for instance. But then other people are trying to bring math into this equation. As if a bunch of numbers on a page can possibly show what's in your opponent's soul! Unless you're talking about reverse implied folding odds I don't need to hear the math. So here's a solution. You're both right. Each hand had a 50% equity on the flop. Both hands had two outcomes: it would win or it would lose. Ergo, 50% of the time one or the other happens. Both players played perfectly. Winning poker isn't much better than a coinflip anyway. |
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[ QUOTE ] So I'm playing a HU SNG on pokerstars and I pick up 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Villian has about 1700 chips to my 1300. Blinds are 10/20 I make the standard 3bb raise. Villian calls. Flop is 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and Villian Pushes. Now, I haven't played that many hands with Villian, but he is extremely agressive and I don't think he has much. So I make the call, and sure enough he has J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]! Sweet! Turn is a blank, and River is a T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Just another example of me making an incredible read with a marginal hand, and having some stupid moron suckout on me. God I [censored] hate poker. [/ QUOTE ] this story is 100 times better if it goes turn 4 river 8... fish!!! [/ QUOTE ] Story? This is a real hand. |
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Look, there seems to be a lot of debate on this subject and, in my opinion, it's all for naught. A number of respected posters are saying that Sponger has a pair. And really, that's a pretty fair analysis. A pair can beat a lot of things. Jack high for instance. But then other people are trying to bring math into this equation. As if a bunch of numbers on a page can possibly show what's in your opponent's soul! Unless you're talking about reverse implied folding odds I don't need to hear the math. So here's a solution. You're both right. Each hand had a 50% equity on the flop. Both hands had two outcomes: it would win or it would lose. Ergo, 50% of the time one or the other happens. Both players played perfectly. Winning poker isn't much better than a coinflip anyway. [/ QUOTE ] omg. |
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I know. Pretty spiffy analysis, huh? Sort of sums the debate right up don't you think?
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I know. Pretty spiffy analysis, huh? Sort of sums the debate right up don't you think? [/ QUOTE ] god this thread rules. |
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Just because I'm a nice guy and don't want anyone to get banned, don't abuse the quote function because people have been banned in the past for quoting too much.
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Any idiot knows that JT suited heads up is a SIGNIFICANT underdog to a pair lower than tens. A pair of twos usually has AT BEST one overcard against it. This is a bad beat if I've ever seen one, you guys need to re-evaluate your hand rankings obviously... The fact that he had a STRAIGHT FLUSH DRAW is insignificant, as the jack made him a bigger pair... I mean, there are only THREE jacks left in the deck, what are the odds that Villain would catch a JACK on the river? Seriously though, one question for OP, what would you do if you had your opponents hand and you flopped a straight flush draw, would you fold, obviously knowing that you're beat, and if you wind up winning you will have dished out a "bad beat," thus folding is best because AT THE MOMENT you don't have the best hand and making the best hand is likely, but not guaranteed, or would you call knowing that you're a FAVORITE against almost any hand against you? I think the choice is clear, and YOU need to understand that this is in no way a "suckout." [/ QUOTE ] I think we've gone over this in this post, but I'll repeat, a pair beats jack high. Period. If Sponger had jack high and his opponent had a pair, then Sponger would be giving the bad beat, Duh. |
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Well I see that the forum has already addressed the fact that you were, in fact, the mathematical underdog to win that hand. On the flop when the cards were revealed you should be wishing yourself "Good luck," because you need it against 21 outs twice and the possibility of a counterfeit. GRRR!
Per usual (and I'm guilty sometimes), most have justified this call with numbers. Let me just say that you did not in fact make an incredible read with a marginal hand--you in fact made a poor decision. They don't appreciate your blasphemy or your censored diction. STOP CRYING WHEN YOU GET YOUR MONEY IN, ALBEIT AHEAD, WHEN YOU WERE A 2.5-1 UNDERDOG! |
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This moron's call with J high was as questionable as Tom Cruise's sexuality, and my ex-wife's fidelity...that's what i hate about pokerstars, that always happens, thats why i only play on AP now. I am not a mean person, and i dont harbor bad feelings for anyone, but i hope that XXXX who called you contracts a terminal illness and dies soon after...
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This moron's call with J high was as questionable as Tom Cruise's sexuality, and my ex-wife's fidelity...that's what i hate about pokerstars, that always happens, thats why i only play on AP now. I am not a mean person, and i dont harbor bad feelings for anyone, but i hope that XXXX who called you contracts a terminal illness and dies soon after... just stay strong, bad beats go both ways. [/ QUOTE ] Here here brother |
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Wait, I thought the guy who had Jack high made the push first.
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Yes, and then Sponger made an awesome read by calling with his pocket 2's. He knew Villain didn't have crap, and he lost anyway. [censored]!
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I only have one thing to say about this thread. If you don't want to feel like a jack-hole, or be thought of as one, please read the whole thing before commenting. Of course, I don't really mind if you just feed the fire... It doesn't seem to get old.
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