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one thing about a guy like Steve - I bet he gets action when he gets a monster - weak tighties like me don't always do that cause we don't play enough hands to put up a loose image, so they know we got a big one.

RB

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It wasn't so much that he called and bragged to his buddy about bluffing Howard, but it was the way he said it. "It looks like somebody shot his dog, he's lost a third his stack, I pop him for 30 with 68o." It was funny to watch him double Howard up soon afterwards and then hearing Norman Chad's commentary. "Where's your cell phone now? 'I just pushed in when Howard was a 6-1 favorite!'" Priceless [censored] right there.

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It wasn't so much that he called and bragged to his MOM about bluffing Howard, but it was the way he said it. "It looks like somebody shot his dog, he's lost a third his stack, I pop him for 30 with 68o." It was funny to watch him double Howard up soon afterwards and then hearing Norman Chad's commentary. "Where's your cell phone now? 'I just pushed in when Howard was a 6-1 favorite!'" Priceless [censored] right there.

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Hell, the story would have been much better if he had waited until he got home and was playing poker with his buddies at their regular friday night game. "This one time at the WSOP Howard Lederer raised first in....blah blah"


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Of course, we all know that he has a much better story to tell his buddies: "Did I ever tell you about the time I won $4.2 million dollars?"

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And your point is...?

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I think hitting a home run off of Roger Clemens should be considered a much bigger accomplishment than bluffing Howard Lederer out of a small pot in the early stages of a poker tournament.

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It wasn't so much that he called and bragged to his buddy about bluffing Howard, but it was the way he said it. "It looks like somebody shot his dog, he's lost a third his stack, I pop him for 30 with 68o." It was funny to watch him double Howard up soon afterwards and then hearing Norman Chad's commentary. "Where's your cell phone now? 'I just pushed in when Howard was a 6-1 favorite!'" Priceless [censored] right there.

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This is exactly it. More than anything it was his tone.

The thing he left out of the phone call was actually the best part. It should have gone like this:

"It looks like somebody shot his dog, he's lost a third his stack. He bet the flop and before I popped him for 30 with 68o, I blurted out "re-raise" when I was just actually raising. Man I'm a douche. Anyway, he folded that one. I thought I was so cool that I tried the same thing again later, but he had Aces and totally owned me. Now don't get too far from the phone because I might be taking a dump later and I want to make sure to let you know how it goes. Okay, bye."

What a world class play.

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"It looks like somebody shot his dog, he's lost a third his stack. He bet the flop and before I popped him for 30 with 68o, I blurted out "re-raise" when I was just actually raising. Man I'm a douche. Anyway, he folded that one. I thought I was so cool that I tried the same thing again later, but he had Aces and totally owned me. Now don't get too far from the phone because I might be taking a dump later and I want to make sure to let you know how it goes. Okay, bye."


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That's some funny [censored]. LOL.

Re: GG Steve Danneman
 

FWIW I think he was calling his business partner who put up half his stake. So it was more like an update than a brag post.

Also, who can blame him for being excited? Remember he was on his third bloody mary for the afternoon...[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

The fact that so many nits hate Dannenman makes me even more glad than he made 2nd. He is the quintessential marylander...go get 'em hon!

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There's just no way you can assume Sammy has AA, AQ, AT, or QQ here. If I remember correctly, Sammy limped in preflop and then called the raise, which would significantly discount the chances of AA and QQ here.

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You can eliminate AA, QQ, and AQ from his holdings in this hand.

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I agree. I dont think Sammy plays AA, QQ, or AQ this way. I dont blame him for losing all his chips. "IF" and I know its a big if, he is trying to make a read of what holdings Sammy could have, and he makes a reasonable accessment that Sammy would not play AA, QQ, or AQ this way, his biggest concern is A10. Basically hes putting all his money in on the read that the only likely cards Sammy has that hes losing this hand to is A10. So some will lay this down on that brilliant read, but my guess is that most will not.

MDoranD

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Sammy raised to 150, and got reraise to 450.

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There's just no way you can assume Sammy has AA, AQ, AT, or QQ here. If I remember correctly, Sammy limped in preflop and then called the raise, which would significantly discount the chances of AA and QQ here.

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You can eliminate AA, QQ, and AQ from his holdings in this hand.

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Because he didn't come back over the top preflop? (I think the first post is wrong, he did open raise and got reraised). I really doubt this. Its seems to me AQ isn't re-raising here. QQ may want to see a flop, see if A K no flop before commiting on first hand. Even AA can slowplay.

Sammy is unpredictable. The fact that its the first hand of the WSOP is another variable to take into account. You can't just eliminate these hands based on the preflop play.

While a bit crazy, Sammy's no fool. He ain't going broke with trips here (Especially since we can eliminate AK and AJ from his holdings, right? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]. So the only hand you put Sammy on when you push must be a str8. Are you saying Sammy's calling all-in with say A6??

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I finally caught Dannenmann's phone call in it's entirety.

That was heavily edited. That phone call could easily have taken place more than 15 minutes after the hand.

After the hand, Dannenmann is seen calmly sitting in his seat. You can also see a dealer standing above the box, presumably getting ready to join the table.

Quite a few things happened between the hand and Dannenmann's phone call. Not only that, but Dannenman was clearly away from the table trying to make a personal call which ESPN didn't have any business airing. The way a guy acts making a personal phone call to a buddy thinking he's away from the cameras is much different than the way he may act when he's in public view and knows it.


Edit: Here's an additional observation. Dannenmann was shown on the phone after the players reached the money. I'd guess it was actually the same phone call.

Re: GG Steve Danneman
 

Agree Danneman is a tool from seeing him speaking after the Lederer bluff however I really think the phone call was just him killing a boatload of time as they were on constant break on the bubble, not him giddly running out to call a friend after the hand. If I was killing time while other tables were finishing up their hands I'd have been on the horn a lot I'd guess.

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Also, in seeing how we know who wins and who comes in second, presenting Danneman in a negative way may be good for tv.

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Not sure what position Sammy was in, but definitely think AT is a limping hand here while AA & QQ are definite raising hands. As for AQo yeah its supposed to be a raising hand but couldn't you see Sammy or anyone limping to be shifty and thus not rule it out entirely? Also, not sure what suits board was showing but there would also be the miniscule chance that someone played KJ suited and royal flush is out there too right?

If you have TT here you're gonna lose a lot of chips here in any event.

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All you players who say you could have gotten away from the full house against Farha ... OK, I believe you. But I also believe your tournament life will be a short one if you run away every time someone sneezes at the pot.

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If you have AT then you flopped the nuts here. The turn Q give you second nuts but since you flopped the nuts you have to go broke since if he has AQ you are just so friggin unlucky on the first hand that you just don't want to play anymore anyways.


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Genius. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

Re: GG Steve Danneman
 

him, kessler, and sartori all seem like really good, niec people, and it's nice to see people like that win a lot of money