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I couldn't see any swastika when Dcifr first posted this, but he's far from the only person who sees it, apparently.

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I think it's obvious that now everyone who read this thread is going to think of it.

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i find some nice spellings here ... descrimination ... denegrate

descrimination is presumably the opposite of scrimination?

i don't know what scrimination is but it could well be the act of a female family member being banged by her father

denegrate, in this context, is more interesting - presumably it is something akin to de-negrofying?

i'm not sure what de-negrofying is either but i think it's a
process such as was undergone by Michael Jackson, as in "Michael has been denegrated"

next time we have a beer we can look out for 6-fingered people and when we spot one we can say "looks like there be some scriminatin' goin' on in that family, yessirreebob"

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Basically, it is a hate symbol. It does not "really" stand for state's rights... people learned in Southern politics know what most (Southern) people mean when they "state's rights" anyhow, and that "heritage not hate" is a lie.

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Considering it was on states flags till the politically correct crowd removed it in 2001, to a great uproar by those in Georgia, I call complete bullsh1t.

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Call anything you want. It was not on the Mississsippi state flag until reconstruction ended and black disenfranchised in 1894 (the Democratic Party took over the state again). It was not on the GA state flag until 1955, or flown above the SC State Capitol until 1954, following the Brown decision.

You call BS, I call you don't know what the f*ck you are talking about, but whatever.

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i find some nice spellings here

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We've got enough going on in this thread without adding a spelling nazi.

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I think it's funny that none of you get it.

GoT

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I get it. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

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I'm not against racist avatars and im not against racist posts.

IMO the only thing that should be moderated are the instances of when a poster will inject on overtly racist and offensive comment into a thread not pertaining to issues of race or culture. For example Thread did you see that ____ game. Post: I can't believe those stupid [censored] get paid so much or something to that effect. That type of racist trolling should be dealt with. Members expressing their beliefs in a mature manner, even racist beliefs should not be. IMO

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You call BS, I call you don't know what the f*ck you are talking about, but whatever.

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Ugh, when it comes to 1950's politics you are right. When it comes to the civil war this is not the case.

Let me ask you this, during the civil war, what was the primary motivation for the stars and bars and what was the primary motivation for the succession of the states?

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That type of racist trolling should be dealt with. Members expressing their beliefs in a mature manner, even racist beliefs should not be. IMO

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I agree with this 100%.

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say
it."-voltaire

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I believe you're confusing freedom of speech with the operation of a commercial forum. At the end of the day, it all comes down to what 2+2 feels is in its best interests. And as far as I know, blatantly racist remarks that are found to be offensive are in violation of the Terms and Conditions and therefore should not be allowed. If Mat or another rep from 2+2 says otherwise than great.

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I believe you're confusing freedom of speech with the operation of a commercial forum. At the end of the day, it all comes down to what 2+2 feels is in its best interests. And as far as I know, blatantly racist remarks that are found to be offensive are in violation of the Terms and Conditions and therefore should not be allowed. If Mat or another rep from 2+2 says otherwise than great.

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No one is confusing that but I as far as I know nor has Mat or anyone ever stated that all racist posts violate the T&C's. Its on the current moderating group that has decided so. I can remember one controversial post dealing with genocide in a light hearted manner where people got offended in which Mat's reply was "I think this is a discussion worth having"

This isnt a case of me, wacki or the others wanting to change 2+2 policy and practice but rather wanting to preserve it. I would say that those moderators who find such things offensive should leave them be until they hear otherwise from Mat or 2+2.

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http://www.chessington.co.uk/images/...bob/SB_run.gif

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http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/telnaes/.../06-04620r.jpg

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I vote this thread be moved to politics or oot. I'm serious. Any objections?

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I vote this thread be moved to politics or oot. I'm serious. Any objections?

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nope, forum issues could also work

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I vote this thread be moved to politics or oot. I'm serious. Any objections?

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You should probably delete my attempted incluing of the new mods first.

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As for my lack of maturity, you'd think it would have stopped stunning you a while back since I've been aggressively open about how much I dislike you for months.

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I am not sure if it is a case of growing up but you really should show more respect to the other mods. We should all be trying to moderate these forums in a professional manner. I think this precludes getting into 'pissing matches' with other mods.

Thank you,

Jim Kuhn
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I don't want to get into a big side discussion, since it's not the point of this thread, but I disagree. I don't see any reason to hide the fact that I think Dynasty is an idiot just because he's another mod. This isn't a political regime where I have to worry about undermining him. I'm not the one that made him a mod and we aren't mods in the same forums, so I don't see any reason to be falsely supportive of his position.

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You call BS, I call you don't know what the f*ck you are talking about, but whatever.

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Ugh, when it comes to 1950's politics you are right. When it comes to the civil war this is not the case.

Let me ask you this, during the civil war, what was the primary motivation for the stars and bars and what was the primary motivation for the succession of the states?

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Wacki, this is not about the civil war. What the flag stood for then or why the war started has very little to do with the perception of the flag today or why people care about it.

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I can't believe we are still having this discussion.

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Meh

I would hestitate against moving this thread, simply because I'm not sure I'd ever like to see something moved out of this forum that started her.

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I would hestitate against moving this thread, simply because I'm not sure I'd ever like to see something moved out of this forum that started her.

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Out of curiosity, do most regular posters know that there is a special board for mods? I think I had heard about it but thought that it might have just been made up, like Bigfoot and female orgasms.

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Someone happened to mention the mod forum in a strat thread before I became a mod. That's the only time I ever heard of this forum. When I became a mod, I had to do a little detective work to find it. I suspect this forum is a very well-kept secret, although that might not be intentional.

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Wacki, this is not about the civil war. What the flag stood for then or why the war started has very little to do with the perception of the flag today or why people care about it.

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http://photos1.blogger.com/img/200/3...4SCV%20053.jpg

http://www.revisionisthistory.org/im...nfederates.JPG

http://www.thesouthernamerican.org/files/eger.jpg

http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/8249/asdfas9cs.jpg

http://www.thesouthernamerican.org/files/edger2.jpg



And my favorite!!!
http://www.southernmessenger.org/images/MissFlag.jpg

Btw gregatron, in the legislation record for GA's flag change there isn't one mention of slavery symbolism. I also think claiming any southern state changed it's flag in the 1800's just to symbolize slavery after the reconstruction is a bunch of crap.

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I vote this thread be moved to politics or oot. I'm serious. Any objections?

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No need to do it mat. I'll start one for you.

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Congratulations wacki, you found six people that disagre with me. You really haven't said anything meaningful in this thread and I don't understand why. It basically seems like you're googling [censored] on the civil war and the confederate flag and posting it here as fast as you can without any concern for its purpose.