Re: difficult jj hand out of position and deep
 

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I don't like leading the flop because we don't really find out where we are in this hand if villain plays passively.


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how about instead of being a smart ass you help me.

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What line do you propose that will give you more information? Check-raise with two overs on board? That sounds like classic spewing.

Re: difficult jj hand out of position and deep
 

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Re: difficult jj hand out of position and deep
 

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default play would be to bet the pot. I'm not sure what I'd do againt a raise though...I'm afraid to say but it may be correct to fold to a raise on the river, against most sane players at least.

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If OP leads the river with a pot-sized bet and gets popped, I think he has to call. I don't know how Villain has enough information to isolate OP to JJ or A with a paired kicker; if that's right, then Villain's raising range includes hands like AK and AT that are simply trips, fair kicker. If that's true, then a call is warranted on the river.

If OP checks the river and Villain leads small (half the pot or under), a c/r tripling the bet seems OK to me: Villain probably has to call with any A. If he responds by pushing, he expects to get called and OP may have to muck it. That's a tough laydown with with something like the seventh nuts; I'm not sure I'm capable of that HU without a really good read on Villain.

My inclination would be to lead the river and call any raise.