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JoshuaD 12-17-2005 09:50 PM

Re: Turn
 
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The only reason to donkbet here is if you're commiting to a showdown. Since you can fold to a 3-bet, you're better off to C/R.

If I C/R and he 3-bets, I can probably find a fold even against this villian.

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Could you explain this further? i'm not sure what you mean mate.

You mean if you're hand is so strong you're goign to a showdown so you don't mind being raised but you also dont want a free card?

Here we only have ace so what? we can risk giving a free card?

I dont understand how you mean.

I'd donk as i dont want a free card getting through. 3betting is tempting as he'll often think we're bluffing so will be raising weaker hands.. Specially with a AF of 3+!

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By donk-betting, we guarantee that no more than 2 bets will go in on the turn, and that at most 1 will go in on the river. (Well, that's not exactly precise, he could call the turn and raise the river, but either way, 3 bets total)

If we C/R the turn and commit to a showdown, we're commiting to getting 4bets in there sometimes.

In this situation I don't want to pay to 4 to see a showdown, so the next question is whether I can fold to his turn 3-bet or whether it would commit me to calling down.

If I can fold to it, then I'm good to C/R. I don't mind that it would cost me 4 to see a showdown because I don't plan on seeing one.

On the other hand, if I'm not going to be able to fold to that 3-bet, I'd much rather just donk here and let him raise me isntead. Saving me a BB when I'm behind.

It's just actively controlling how many bets you're commiting to putting in.


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