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Weigh that against the disaster that occurs when you get check-raised here (2 bets in with less than 20% equity) and it should become clear that the only time you'd like to bet this to protect your hand is when you're against a passive opponent who's c/r range is strong enough that you can comfortably fold.

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quoted for truth.

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Thanks, Bryce. You and Victor are arguing this much better than I am. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

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check behind on turn because you have a gutshot

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How many outs are we giving hero? I'm thinking we have about 5-5.5 which still gives us odds to call, but like Victor said, hate it. I'd tend to check behind this turn

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Can I assume that those advocating to check the turn are all going to fold the river ui?

One other point. For anyone who hasn't read the book, the authors clearly state that they are not suggesting that each street in their example (before the question) has been played properly.

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Can I assume that those advocating to check the turn are all going to fold the river ui?

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No. I know I'd call...

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i call the river ui most of the time

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Alright, if you're calling the river ui most of the time, then I assume you believe that your hand is best a significant percentage of the time. In that case, you are not checking the turn because of your outs, but because you really hate to be c/r?

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i call the river ui most of the time

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Same.

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Alright, if you're calling the river ui most of the time, then I assume you believe that your hand is best a significant percentage of the time. In that case, you are not checking the turn because of your outs, but because you really hate to be c/r?

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I don't see any inconsistency. Our hand is good more than 1 time in 5 on the river, but not good often enough to bet the turn given the risk of a c/r. The difference between this hand and the normal AK unimproved-type hands is that here we have to call a turn c/r, and also this flop is more likely to have hit BB.