Re: Set of 3s at NL400
 

I liked your fold, although the whole "you can't disguise the strength of your hand and then fold to aggression" point was pretty on point. I'm just convinced that I am beat here.. there are lots of 2 pair hands that Villain could've made, but I doubt he plays them this hard unless he just sucks. There are also 5 higher sets, 2 of which are pretty likely IMO, and the straight got there as well.

I think the fold is fine, but 2+2ers never fold anything that I'd fold.

Re: Set of 3s at NL400
 

Uh oh.. Guy with 43247230 posts thinks he is better than everyone

Re: Set of 3s at NL400
 

It's not a matter of mistakes. It's a matter of odds and racionality.

The river changes pratically nothing on the hand. It makes a flush possible but it's unlikely that he has this flush.

If u called the turn thinking he is on some kind of bluff or semi-bluff. OR he could have some two pair hand. Well, on the river he still can have this hands. The only draw that complete is the spades flush and for me is unlikely that he has this.

I agree that this is a difficult decision on the turn. It depends on opponent. If you think he is a donk that may overplay his two pair hands on THIS board. You push. If opponents is solid, this raise on turn means a VERY GOOD hand on this board. Made straight or one of top sets (slowplayed, not so solid hehe). Then you fold the turn. I don't think semi-bluffing is a good move for a thinking player on this board on the turn.

That's what i thought of the hand.

Re: Set of 3s at NL400
 

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I think if u called that turn you HAVE to call this river.

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I had that feeling too. Because I didnt had the odds (inc. implied) to chase the full if he already had the straight. But got a strong feeling (as I said in another reply) he must have a hand better than 2 pair.


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Ive looked at the hanad again, I was a little fast above. I actually HAD odds with some margin (inc implied assuming he will pay me off when pushing a filled river) to chase the boat even if Im 100% sure that he has a straight. Because I have 10 outs (about 20% chance to hit) and it cost me $105 and I will win a pot containing $715.

Re: Set of 3s at NL400
 

You are calling $105 to win $451 (assuming he will call with Straight when u fill the river)

Your share of the river don't count (it's YOUR money already).

Re: Set of 3s at NL400
 

You played like a donk, no offense. I used to be a pussy with my sets too.

Never slowplay a set on a board like this (or in 99% of cases). Bet 80% of pot on the flop and this hand becomes super easy.

As for turn, retarded not to re-raise all-in.

River I don't know what to tell you, it's too screwed up by then.

Re: Set of 3s at NL400
 

It's not correct to fold on the turn. This isn't even debatable in my mind. Granted, checking the flop makes everything more complicated then it has to be, but I think I'm good here more often then not. Check raise all-in.

Re: Set of 3s at NL400
 

Correct, I still have the odds though if i Know he has the straight and pay me off. But not with as big margin.

Re: Set of 3s at NL400
 

Don't ya just hate it. You count on MP to bet the flop he raised, and he doesn't come thru. So everyone gets a freebee, and damn, its 3 crds to a straight. To further confound one, you now also face a flush on the river, and the board didn't pair to give you a boat.
IMO, fold.
I'd have folded on raise on the turn.

Re: Set of 3s at NL400
 

Is this incorrect or is it best to just fold this turn to the raise?