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golfcchs 12-09-2005 11:08 AM

Re: Curtains Hand #1
 
I like the push, but do you play this any differently if stacks are all about equal and there are 9-10 players still at the table?

microbet 12-09-2005 11:30 AM

Re: Curtains Hand #1
 
This is a $215 down to 5 players in level 2. Jeebus.

MP with the big stack is prolly a nut job. I think other ways to play this hand would be nice, but you can't give up on it and MP isn't likely to give you any options. The pot is big compared to your stack and the only way to get all your money in first is to open push the flop.

Nicok7 12-09-2005 11:36 AM

Re: Curtains Hand #1
 
I just feel that Hero wouldn't mind a call for part or all of his stack here since he has 2 overcards + double draw (although not a nut flush draw and the straight his a gutshot). I feel a check raise is a decent option since at worst seing a free turn is good.

As for getting reraised if not going all in I would instacall getting surely the odds against almost anything (Ace of hearts is the worst card obviously, but you are a favorite against top pair!)

I still like the all in, and have no problem some people considering it standart, but saying it is the only option seems wrong to me.

microbet 12-09-2005 11:39 AM

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btw should I wait some time before responding to this stuff?

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I think so.

12-09-2005 11:40 AM

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MP with the big stack is prolly a nut job.

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Or he took care of all the other nut jobs. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

zipppy 12-09-2005 11:43 AM

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btw should I wait some time before responding to this stuff?

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I think so.

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pergesu 12-09-2005 12:22 PM

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Does anyone ever consider check raising all in here, particularly against a thinking opponent?

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Assuming this is standard at a lot of people have said, wouldn't a thinking opponent just move in if he were to bet? That's not the desired spot for us.

Bill Poker 12-09-2005 12:55 PM

Re: Curtains Hand #1
 
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Does anyone ever consider check raising all in here, particularly against a thinking opponent?

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1. the pot is already big, dont mind taking down now.
2. if check raise, the pot is big enough (odds is good enough) for vallian to call push.
3. this hand is only slighty favorite against top pair, curtains tried to discourage action.

12-09-2005 01:00 PM

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btw should I wait some time before responding to this stuff?

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I think so.

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I think it might be nice if the posters didn't say that these hands are curtains', as there's a lot of "Obviously that's the right play" replies in these first two hands.

Another option is freezing the action before the interesting play (in which case curtains would obviously have to wait a little before joining in).

Degen 12-09-2005 01:21 PM

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I think it might be nice if the posters didn't say that these hands are curtains', as there's a lot of "Obviously that's the right play" replies in these first two hands.


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Interesting. I had 3 more to post but their on my laptop so have to do it in the morning...and can't wait given the response so far...

Peronally I think its good that they are labled curtains, if others disagree I can disguise the rest...


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