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12-04-2005 06:22 PM

Re: Huge pot, HU
 
holy [censored] even i wouldn't let that many bets go in

gg

krishanleong 12-04-2005 06:25 PM

Re: Huge pot, HU
 
I check call the turn but I don't dispise the turn lead. I think the river is okay but not great. I don't think 2 pair significantly improved your hand.

I'd range him as 2 pair, set, AA, a flush or AK or Aqc. There are other potential hands but I think these are the most likely.

Krishan

Spicymoose 12-04-2005 06:26 PM

Re: Huge pot, HU
 
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holy [censored] even i wouldn't let that many bets go in

gg

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Uh oh. I guess if AgroHUSHPoster is saying this, I probably put in about 5 too many bets.

However, to be a bit results oriented, at least I won [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. Villain showed 75, and then proceeded to cry.

I realize that I did push too hard with this hand, but does anyone think these "reads" I had matter at all?

TStoneMBD 12-04-2005 06:46 PM

Re: Huge pot, HU
 
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holy [censored] even i wouldn't let that many bets go in

gg

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didnt expect to see this one come out of you. nh

i agree this hand was hugely overplayed. after youre raised on the turn its time to slow down and cc the river. bet/calling serves no purpose and i dont like checkraising because hes represented a set or perhaps KK with a flush draw and you arent ahead > 66.6% of the time.

i also question some of the other streets but i have a hard time analyzing this hand without having any sense of what type of opponent were up against. of course hes a fishy posting UTG but thats all i know.

lastcoyote 12-04-2005 07:14 PM

Re: Huge pot, HU
 
Most of the time someone is auto-betting and auto-raising they have a very good made hand that loses if an obvious draw gets there. Especially common among TAGs.

75 with no club is not surprising to me at all here.

bank 12-04-2005 07:19 PM

Re: Huge pot, HU
 
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75 with no club is not surprising to me at all here.

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So you're saying that Villian raising UTG and then capping hero's 3 bet from the BB with 75 is not the least bit suprising?

lastcoyote 12-04-2005 07:45 PM

Re: Huge pot, HU
 
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75 with no club is not surprising to me at all here.

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So you're saying that Villian raising UTG and then capping hero's 3 bet from the BB with 75 is not the least bit suprising?

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Well, I guess nothing surprises me from an UTG poster. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

But I was really talking about post flop is when I seem to notice this super fast kind of play.

Guy McSucker 12-04-2005 07:54 PM

Re: Huge pot, HU
 
On the flop, he's either drawing very live or has you boned.

On the river, you've overtaken some of the hands you were losing to, but not all of them by a long way, and the drawing hands have missed. I think check-raise is a bit of a longshot and would prefer to bet-call so as to get value from the pair-plus-draw hands we had beaten all along and the two-pair hands we just overtook while not donating too much to the sets and flushes.

The river three-bet looks ugly. Call and hope he's insane.

As for the turn, I agree with your bet since the 4-bet-freecard is a possibility here; the raise just irritates me and I call it with an appropriately disgusted look on my face. Well played.

Guy.

Surfbullet 12-04-2005 08:45 PM

Re: Huge pot, HU
 
this hand was overplayed. You got lucky that he was a cap-any-2-pre-maniac who overplays 2 pair. If he's even halfway sane you are spewing, and given that he posted UTG i'm not sure where you are coming up with "reads."

I probably just call down after the flop cap. Unless he's TAG(what TAG posts UTG?) he's not capping for a free card, these guys salivate at the chance to "semibluff" the turn after "capping for a free card" (it doesn't have to make sense). c/c the river after he raises the turn your K doesn't improve you enough over his hand range. If you had c/c'd the turn then a river c/r would be moer in order.

Surf


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