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Surfbullet 12-04-2005 10:29 PM

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Thanks for the analysis guys, and the writeup victor.

About the AT hand... In retrospect I really like a check-behind there. I've gotten burned by these lately so I get stuck in "RRRRWAAAAR MHIG 2+2 aggro HUSH BET PROTECT HAND!!!" mode, and I think I bet-fold a bit too much in these situations, especially against aggressive players. I'm working on getting to showdown when my hand favors well against the lags, even if it risks a 6 outer.

Surf

Surfbullet 12-04-2005 10:32 PM

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KQ flopped 2 pair hand in SB. how come you don't lead the flop?

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I thought the Megalag who raised preflop would bet here like 100%, trapping all but 1 player for 2bets. He'll def bet, but I can't trust him to raise in a 5way pot, and if he does i've isolated 2 players.

Surf

Surfbullet 12-04-2005 10:38 PM

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kq hand where you pick up a gutterball on the turn. i think this turn call is pretty easy. i may bluff the river depending on how good wynn is. if he is a decent player he will likely fold acehighs here since it is unlikely you will bluff into him and the moron. the moron adds legitamacy to your bet. pots very big too.

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Yeah... The turn call was pretty standard I just decided to do some mental math and make sure it was okay, discounted outs + all.

I thought about bluffing the river when the aggressor hesitated and finally checked, but the last thing I need right now is to be spewing extra bets and I'm keeping my random bluff-happy thoughts in check. This looks like it would be a great squeeze play though and I felt like a <'>>< for not pulling the trigger.

Surf

Surfbullet 12-04-2005 10:46 PM

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ak hand. there is not way i fold that river.


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pokerface is mega-super-duper-passive. I didn't realize he had bet himself allin until after I had folded, but i'm 90% sure he's got a J. The maniac could be bluffraising so i'd probably call his. I'm trying so hard to save bets to try and get out of this downswing i'm getting weak tight [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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ajo hand. you hit an ace on the turn. i would raise here. this guys has gotten out of line with draws and this board is drawheavy.


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I agree. I almost raised, then I htought about how much it would suck to get 3bet and how I couldn't fold, and convinced myself to wait till the river to raise where I would be more likely to find a fold. Looking for folds with TPGK HU vs a maniac is not the best way to play.

Surf

Surfbullet 12-04-2005 10:56 PM

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for your hud i would suggest adding asb for sure. i use that a lot. i also have wsd% but i dont use it too much.

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I usually have a whole slew of #s near each player, but I just got a new laptop and PA is being a pain, the table I was filming was the only one with reliable stats for some reason, the rest get "N/As" for table avgs and no personal info.

I'm going to give it an overhaul and i'll def include ATSB and WTSD.

Surf

Victor 12-04-2005 11:18 PM

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Thanks for the analysis guys, and the writeup victor.

About the AT hand... In retrospect I really like a check-behind there. I've gotten burned by these lately so I get stuck in "RRRRWAAAAR MHIG 2+2 aggro HUSH BET PROTECT HAND!!!" mode, and I think I bet-fold a bit too much in these situations, especially against aggressive players. I'm working on getting to showdown when my hand favors well against the lags, even if it risks a 6 outer.

Surf

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against a very passive opponent i would bet the turn tho.

Entity 12-04-2005 11:48 PM

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KQ flopped 2 pair hand in SB. how come you don't lead the flop?

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I thought the Megalag who raised preflop would bet here like 100%, trapping all but 1 player for 2bets. He'll def bet, but I can't trust him to raise in a 5way pot, and if he does i've isolated 2 players.

Surf

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Anyone else have any comments about this? I c/r this all the time but I'd like to hear who bets.

Rob

Victor 12-05-2005 12:00 AM

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KQ flopped 2 pair hand in SB. how come you don't lead the flop?

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I thought the Megalag who raised preflop would bet here like 100%, trapping all but 1 player for 2bets. He'll def bet, but I can't trust him to raise in a 5way pot, and if he does i've isolated 2 players.

Surf

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Anyone else have any comments about this? I c/r this all the time but I'd like to hear who bets.

Rob

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5way pots are super rare so its tought to predict how players will react. when you consider how much value you lose if it gets checked around i think betting is better here.

oreogod 12-05-2005 01:31 AM

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ak hand. there is not way i fold that river.


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pokerface is mega-super-duper-passive. I didn't realize he had bet himself allin until after I had folded, but i'm 90% sure he's got a J. The maniac could be bluffraising so i'd probably call his. I'm trying so hard to save bets to try and get out of this downswing i'm getting weak tight [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]


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While watching this hand I made a note that I would have bet the K turn.

-Also 5handed, A2s in the CO, its close to folding/raising w/ a raise being more favorable with the players u have to act behind u.

jason_t 12-05-2005 05:31 AM

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KQ flopped 2 pair hand in SB. how come you don't lead the flop?

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I thought the Megalag who raised preflop would bet here like 100%, trapping all but 1 player for 2bets. He'll def bet, but I can't trust him to raise in a 5way pot, and if he does i've isolated 2 players.

Surf

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Anyone else have any comments about this? I c/r this all the time but I'd like to hear who bets.

Rob

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I bet but you already knew that since we yelled at each other on AIM about it. I think we get more value that way.


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