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Momo 11-27-2005 09:48 PM

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Mo Morris runs for 1500 yards and 15 TDs next season.

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Care to put your money where your mouth is?

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I'd be stupid to, considering rb injuries.

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Thats the difference between eliete backs and Morris. I could put money down that LT will easily get 1500 yards, 15 TDs, and most likely throw one. LT is the BEST back in the league. He makes his own holes, he can catch the ball, and he can throw it(anyone see today's game? That pass the threw was perfect, better then some QB's i see every sunday, IE vick).

TheRover 11-27-2005 09:52 PM

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While LT is certainly is a great receiver, he isn't utilized much in that role. Much of his receptions are safety valve receptions that don't do much.

Edge, Faulk, and Priest are/were all awesome though.

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How good do you think Bush will be at this?

Colonel Kataffy 11-27-2005 09:54 PM

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What starting RB doesnt do those things? I loved robert smith but I dont think he was ever considered an elite running back. Does Jamal lewis fit your description? Stephen Davis? Tatum Bell? Thomas Jones? Samkon Gado?

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I wasn't giving a description. I giving a list of things to look for as opposed to just looking at stats because stats are heavily dependant upon the team a player plays for.

Clinton Portis is a perfect example. If you look at his stats now compared with the Broncos, you get the Bronco effect. Does that mean Portis is any worse a runner now, not necessarily. A better measure would be analize each and every handoff he takes and weigh the criteria I gave. A stat tells you a player had a big run. Determining whether that run was do to his ability to make a player miss or because his line opened a whole for him tells you why he had a big run. Some better running backs have crappy stats because of the team they play for. Some average backs have great stats because of the team they play for. All I'm saying is its more important to look at film then stats. Its the difference between what and why.

Tatum Bell, Thomas Jones, Steven davis, all do some of those things well. Right now LT is the only guy that I think can do all those things and not consequently I think he is the only all time great running back playing right now.

brettbrettr 11-27-2005 09:59 PM

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I think he is the only all time great running back playing right now.

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They don't grow on tress, you know. Or, taking a page from the Parcells book, you can't just dial 1-800-alltimegreatrunningback.

Jack of Arcades 11-27-2005 10:37 PM

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I play poker sparingly.

I don't see what Shaun Alexander's totals have anything to it, though.

brettbrettr 11-27-2005 10:52 PM

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I play poker sparingly.

I don't see what Shaun Alexander's totals have anything to it, though.

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Well, if you saying that any back can run behind the Seattle line you're saying that SAlexander's numbers are much better than they should be.

Jack of Arcades 11-27-2005 10:54 PM

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It obviously depends on a multitude of things: who he plays for, who he plays against, etc. Do you deny that Shaun Alexander plays behind a great O-Line against horrible defenses?

brettbrettr 11-27-2005 11:29 PM

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Do you deny that Shaun Alexander plays behind a great O-Line against horrible defenses?

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Not in the slightest. I do not however think that Mercury Morris can rush for 1500 yds and 15 tds.

Jack of Arcades 11-27-2005 11:39 PM

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Anyway, I think it's silly to make a small bet that won't be resolved for over a year. Add this to your favorites or whatever. Whoever's gonna run the ball next year for the Hawks will do very well.

rwperu34 11-28-2005 12:30 AM

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If this guy runs for 1500 and 15 next year, I take a dump!

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