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Jack of Arcades 11-26-2005 06:12 AM

Re: Odds on NFC Champs
 
Yes, all three of their losses have come on the road. One, at Washington, a strong team - in Kyle Orton's first game as a rookie, and they lost by a matter of all of 2 points. Two, at Cincy - one of the best teams in the league. Three, at Cleveland - back when the team still gave a damn and played reasonably well. Orton's a rookie and makes mistakes, sometimes that'll lead to close games with bad opponents. Yes, they almost lost to NO in LSU. So? Carolina lost to NO in Carolina.

Let me tell you how impressed I am with Minnesota's upsurge. Whooo. Go Vikes, they've beaten two of the worst teams in the league and managed to beat New York without moving the ball.

Sure, Minnesota's better than Detroit and New Orleans. Color me impressed. I can use your logic, too: Chicago dominated Carolina. Carolina dominated Minnesota. Whoo. It's not about that in the NFL. You can't look at a team's worst games and say "look, these guys suck!" Because you can do that for every team.

MCS 11-26-2005 08:41 AM

Re: Odds on NFC Champs
 
I am a Falcons fan, and it hurts me to say this, but they're really not that good. Chicago is clearly better, and they should win the game in Chicago.

Chicago is ranked significantly higher in DVOA and a little higher in Sagarin predictor. That's good enough for me.

Atlanta is sort of a fraud. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

JTrout 11-26-2005 12:13 PM

Re: Odds on NFC Champs
 
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Because you can do that for every team.

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...but one.

Jack of Arcades 11-26-2005 01:46 PM

Re: Odds on NFC Champs
 
LOL, the ironic thing about this season is that as Washington and Atlanta play better and better, they lose games. Washington played like [censored] and went 3-0, then they started playing real well, they went 2-5. Now, as Michael Vick starts to become valuable, they go 2-2 because all of the sudden, nobody can pick up a bouncing oblong. ATL are a roughly average team that require the breaks to go their way to beat a lot of teams.

Michael Davis 11-26-2005 06:33 PM

Re: Odds on NFC Champs
 
"Two, at Cincy"

No. The Bears were at home.

-Michael

Jack of Arcades 11-26-2005 06:38 PM

Re: Odds on NFC Champs
 
meh, I misread the schedule.

Jack of Arcades 11-27-2005 05:54 PM

Re: Odds on NFC Champs
 
Chicago 13, Tampa 10

Does my gloating ever get old?

bottomset 11-27-2005 06:12 PM

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Chicago 13, Tampa 10

Does my gloating ever get old?

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nice game there, I'm impressed, your bye talk is starting to get more likely

now would be time to choke against the Packers, you guys like doing that

RacersEdge 11-27-2005 06:41 PM

Re: Odds on NFC Champs
 
I would not rank ATL as a great team, but their running game is still very strong. They still have a record of something like 43-25 with Vick at QB. They also looked at little better than Seattle in the game they lost by 3 points in Seattle.

imported_CaseClosed326 11-27-2005 11:05 PM

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Chicago 13, Tampa 10

Does my gloating ever get old?

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No.


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