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Jason Strasser 11-20-2005 09:00 PM

Re: errrrrrr?
 
Hmm.

I'm not sure what I think. I do think, though, that a deuce is very possible card here. I agree you arent going to see JJ-KK here much, and that you are very likely looking at some sort of missed draw/bluff or a boat/2 a vast majority of the time.

A lot of the people here who can't get their heads around making calls like this aren't good poker players, that is all. One thing you have to remember though is that once a good opponent knows you are capable of a call like this, things can get v interesting.

-Jason

Yeti 11-20-2005 09:01 PM

Re: errrrrrr?
 
Don't like it.

Jason Strasser 11-20-2005 09:01 PM

Re: errrrrrr?
 
Why don't you go play durrr heads up then?
-Jason

Jason Strasser 11-20-2005 09:04 PM

Re: errrrrrr?
 
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Everything except smaller diamonds beats you. Reasonable straight draws either got there or paired on the river.

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How clueless can this post be?

If you know 1 player who is valuebetting a rivered 9 here against a virtual unknown, then show me. I think the last hand i expect to see here is 9T/79.

Once an opponent sees durr make a call like this, then maybe we can start to talk about a very thin value bet, but hardly anyone with a 9 makes this bet, unless they think they are bluffing and on this board that is absurd.

-Jason

Jason Strasser 11-20-2005 09:04 PM

Re: errrrrrr?
 
Good post yeti

Jason Strasser 11-20-2005 09:06 PM

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you are going to make that hyooooooge call on the river, why not block the river.


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Block the river?

Is everyone here losing their minds?

Block the river against what???? The same player that he is calling with a high is the same that might come over the top of the block bet... and also, what exactly calls this block bet that durr is ahead of? I think a block bet is putrid idea.

punter11235 11-20-2005 09:11 PM

Re: errrrrrr?
 
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A lot of the people here who can't get their heads around making calls like this aren't good poker players, that is all.

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Who am I to disagree with such an authority [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
I still hate calling but I will think hard about any post like this to better understand these situations.

Yeti 11-20-2005 09:11 PM

Re: errrrrrr?
 
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Also i doubt he raises a fullhouse on the turn. On the river 57 is possible

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If he thinks he can eke out $2500 more in value from your ace-high, I'd say it's plausible.

Jason Strasser 11-20-2005 09:12 PM

Re: errrrrrr?
 
I think pushing or folding the turn is a good plan if your hand didnt have showdown value. I this case, if durr feels like most of his equity in the hand is going to be snapping off a bluff/missed draw, then he should go ahead and call.

-Jason

Jason Strasser 11-20-2005 09:13 PM

Re: errrrrrr?
 
The point is that you are saying:

"OMG U CALLED off xxx dollars with ace high!" Instead of actually analytically coming up with a decision on how to play the hand.

-Jason


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