Re: Party 30+3 - Who\'s the moron?
 

Being a moron here has little to with the push or the call. To me it has more to do with him calling you a moron for pushing.

Re: Party 30+3 - Who\'s the moron?
 

Forget about EV and ICM for a second...

a) Runner4life called with A9o, assuming he was ahead. Otherwise, he wouldn't have called.

b) Despite knowing he was ahead, he should have known that he could also lose the hand.

c) He lost the hand.

In summary, he's not a moron for calling, but calling you a moron was uncalled for. Your hand is EXACTLY what he wanted you to have. If you woke up with AA that hand, I'm sure he would be feeling rather dumb right now.

Re: Party 30+3 - Who\'s the moron?
 

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yeah i felt like an ass and was mad that I would do that to a 2+2er, random person i could care less.

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my vote was that neither was a moran until i read this.

Re: Party 30+3 - Who\'s the moron?
 

not to justify it, but it was early in the day and just kept losing after making plays I was glad I made. Also this kind of stuff keeps me occupied at tables sometimes as I get bored. My last post on this thread, hopefully I dont do this again.

Re: Party 30+3 - Who\'s the moron?
 

Your M is slightly over 2. In HOH2, Harrington advocating pushing first in from any position with almost any 2 cards when your M gets below 5.

Re: Party 30+3 - Who\'s the moron?
 

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I am much more inclined to take a turn through the blinds than push junk utg.

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Taking a turn through the blinds in this case means half his stack. Even if he doubles up after making it through the blinds he's right back where he started, needing to make a move.

I also don't think 6,7s is junk, since he's unlikely to be dominated and has the outside shot at making a str8 or a flush.

Even though this is marginally +EV I still like the push with those blinds coming up.

Re: Party 30+3 - Who\'s the moron?
 

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I am much more inclined to take a turn through the blinds than push junk utg.

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Taking a turn through the blinds in this case means half his stack. Even if he doubles up after making it through the blinds he's right back where he started, needing to make a move.

I also don't think 6,7s is junk, since he's unlikely to be dominated and has the outside shot at making a str8 or a flush.

Even though this is marginally +EV I still like the push with those blinds coming up.

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Vote here

Re: Party 30+3 - Who\'s the moron?
 

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Your M is slightly over 2. In HOH2, Harrington advocating pushing first in from any position with almost any 2 cards when your M gets below 5.

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M, M, M. Blah, [censored], blah.

Re: Party 30+3 - Who\'s the moron?
 

You really like M dont you. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Re: Party 30+3 - Who\'s the moron?
 

'Neither' is the obvious answer here.