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cwsiggy 11-11-2005 02:52 PM

Re: Has WSOP gotten too big?
 
Daniel Negreanu talks in his latest journal entry about meeting with a bigwig and discussing the WSOP and schedule etc.
Lets hope they bring back HORSE as per Dan's suggestion.

kyro 11-11-2005 03:45 PM

Re: Has WSOP gotten too big?
 
This would kill poker as we know it.

11-11-2005 10:19 PM

Re: Has WSOP gotten too big?
 
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I think the tournament should be open to anyone who wants to play, that's what's so great about it. There are other tournaments for only stars.

I do think the field is to large. The way to make it larger is to increase the buy-in. I think they should auction off the seats in a way that everyone pays the 250th highest bid (if 250 players is what you want). This would allow anyone to enter, but would make to tournament more managable.

Any guesses on what the buy-in would end up being if this system were used?

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Increasing the buy in would not have much effect because most entries come from online winners anyways. The online casino's would just add an extra satellite or two to be able to qualify. So your initial $40 fee would still get you a seat.

Eric Draven 11-11-2005 10:23 PM

Re: Has WSOP gotten too big?
 
It's not too big, that's impossible.

I don't like your system, it should stay open. However raising the enterence fee to $20-25,000 isn't a bad idea (inflation would make it like 50,000 today, but I think that's too much).

11-11-2005 10:24 PM

Re: Has WSOP gotten too big?
 
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No matter how you run it, I don't think one tournament could decide who the best player in the world is. Luck does play a part. Anything can happen during that given week.

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Maybe not but in my scenario the main body of entrants would be those who qualified from the circuit events. If you get 190 of those qualifiers - people who have played and been successful in up to 25 events during the last 6-9 months then you can say that you have a real good field. Add the past WSOP ME winners and an additional 50 or so "regular Joes" and it should be a great event.

Personally I'd rather see the ME winner be someone who has put in the time at the game OR someone who came from nowheres to knock off 200 or so of the top players in the world.

Mason Malmuth 11-11-2005 11:14 PM

Re: Has WSOP gotten too big?
 
Hi Rottersod:

I disagree. Having all these people show up chasing a dream is what makes Las Vegas Poker and poker in general the great game that it is. If the tournament was limited, there wouldn't be any Chris Moneymakers or Greg Raymeys, and they have simply been great for poker.

On a more pragmatic side, I can't imagine Harrah's doing something that would limit the huge number of people who come to town. You're talking about thousands of hotel rooms, lots of action on their other gaming tables, etc.

Best wishes,
Mason

JohnG 11-11-2005 11:46 PM

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Am I the only one who thinks that slogging your way through 5000+ entries is no way to crown the world champion? Especially since many (most?) of the entries came from online qualifiers and are essentially freerolling? Here's my idea for a fair tourney that would give us a great champion:

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It's never been about finding a great champion.

What is a great champion anyway? A name player?

For me, in an ideal world, people should aspire to play in the main event. So, I think it should be harder to get into. But buyin has to be the only barrier to entry.

There's always the cheaper events for someone that can't afford the main event, and that would feed the dream of one day playing the main event.

lozen 11-12-2005 12:46 AM

Re: Has WSOP gotten too big?
 
You would also have to change it to a Pot Limit Tournament.

Like it the way it is 10,000 a dream and a shot.

jstnrgrs 11-12-2005 12:46 AM

Re: Has WSOP gotten too big?
 
Right now, a $40 online satallite with 1250 entries would awary 5 seats. If the buy-in were increased to $25,000, then that same tournament would only award 2 seats, so increasing the buy-in would reduce the number of entries.

Even if increasing to $25,000 doen't reduce the field much (and I think it would), there is certainly some buy-in that is high enough to reduce the number of entries. (If the buy-in was a bajillion dollars, then there would be 0 entries). So if you want 250 entries, there is a buy-in ammount somewhere between $10,000 and a bajillion dollars that would result in 250 entries. I just din't know what that number is.

Godfather80 11-12-2005 02:46 AM

Re: Has WSOP gotten too big?
 
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You would also have to change it to a Pot Limit Tournament.



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NH


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