Re: Isolation or not?
 

Edit : Oh, I see what you're saying. We can do that, yes.

Re: Isolation or not?
 

You see, they really don't, though. 75% or more of players you encounter are not positionally aware, or if they know that the button is good, they may not put it into practice much. A guy like this almost certainly isn't clued in enough to vary his holdings by position.

I raise all of these hands automatically except for 88 and 66. Whether or not I raise 88-66 depends on more specific reads about the table and the limper. Complete unknowns I'll limp 66, and I'll probably limp 88, too, but I won't be happy about it.

Re: Isolation or not?
 

I raise all of these but 66, which I limp.

Eights are too good and too close to Nines just to limp.

Re: Isolation or not?
 

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75% or more of players you encounter are not positionally aware

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You mean tight players as well? Maybe 75% of the loose aren't but most of the tight players probably are (VPIP -22%).

Where do you draw the line when you start thinking about the players position and what hand he can have in that position? -22% VPIP?
I know reads are the best to determine of course, but if you only have VPIP.

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I raise all of these but 66, which I limp.

Eights are too good and too close to Nines just to limp.

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It's quite obvious I'm not isolating enough. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
Do you isolate with Axs, KJo, KTs, QJs, QTs, JTs as well?

Re: Isolation or not?
 

It's not as important as postflop play.

Not raising ATs is a crime.

You need to get this "isolate" word out of your poker vocabulary. You're not raising to isolate anyone in Small stakes. You're raising because meatbags are going to cold call you with J7o.

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You need to get this "isolate" word out of your poker vocabulary. You're not raising to isolate anyone in Small stakes. You're raising because meatbags are going to cold call you with J7o.

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That is true at some tables. I am not talking about the loose tables here.
I am talking about tight tables against mostly decent players.

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You need to get this "isolate" word out of your poker vocabulary. You're not raising to isolate anyone in Small stakes. You're raising because meatbags are going to cold call you with J7o.

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That is true at some tables. I am not talking about the loose tables here.
I am talking about tight tables against mostly decent players.

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You need to work on your table selection then.

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You need to get this "isolate" word out of your poker vocabulary. You're not raising to isolate anyone in Small stakes. You're raising because meatbags are going to cold call you with J7o.

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That is true at some tables. I am not talking about the loose tables here.
I am talking about tight tables against mostly decent players.

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You need to work on your table selection then.

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false.

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I raise all of these but 66, which I limp.

Eights are too good and too close to Nines just to limp.

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It's quite obvious I'm not isolating enough. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
Do you isolate with Axs, KJo, KTs, QJs, QTs, JTs as well?

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i agree with shadow wrt the first set of hands you posted.

for this second set, it depends.

some things i consider are:
how bad is the EP the limper at postflop play.
how likely the bad opponents yet to act behind me are to call two cold and play passively.
how likely the good opponents yet to act behind me are to 3-bet me and play aggressively.

some hands, like Axs and KJo will like a small field.
some hands, like QJs, JTs will tolerate a larger field to an extent (ie, the suitedness/straight potential is there, but ideally i'd still like to be headsup.)