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had a taste similar to Guinness Draught

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I don't think it tastes anything like Guinness.

However, if you like Guinness, I highly recommend Samuel Smith's Oatmeal Stout.

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Since when does SS's Oatmeal Stout taste anything like Guinness?

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Since we are in a parallel universe where ridiculously big IPA's (which I love) taste like Guiness.

The bottle mocking the drinker is a nice touch. Great beer for the hop heads.

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Arrogant Bastard is not an IPA

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No? That is the style it most resembled to me. How would you classify it?

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Its an American Strong Ale.

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had a taste similar to Guinness Draught

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I don't think it tastes anything like Guinness.

However, if you like Guinness, I highly recommend Samuel Smith's Oatmeal Stout.

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Since when does SS's Oatmeal Stout taste anything like Guinness?

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Since we are in a parallel universe where ridiculously big IPA's (which I love) taste like Guiness.

The bottle mocking the drinker is a nice touch. Great beer for the hop heads.

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Arrogant Bastard is not an IPA

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No? That is the style it most resembled to me. How would you classify it?

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IPA's by name are "pale." AB is brownish. It also has a sort of roasted malt character which is not present in IPAs. It doesn't really fit in with any specific style guidelines so it is characterized by Beer Advocate and Rate Beer as an "American Strong Ale."

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Its an American Strong Ale.

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Defined as this?
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Description:
Catch all style category for beers from 7.0 percent alcohol by volume and above, Some may even be as high as 25% abv. Characteristics will greatly vary, some have similarities to Barley-wines and Old Ales. Barrel aging is certainly not out of the question.


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That strikes me as a useless category based upon % alcohol content that describes nothing of the beer's flavor. I agree with the old ale similarities but a barley wine? I haven't had it in a while so I may be misremembering but it was no barley wine.

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had a taste similar to Guinness Draught

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I don't think it tastes anything like Guinness.

However, if you like Guinness, I highly recommend Samuel Smith's Oatmeal Stout.

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Since when does SS's Oatmeal Stout taste anything like Guinness?

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Since we are in a parallel universe where ridiculously big IPA's (which I love) taste like Guiness.

The bottle mocking the drinker is a nice touch. Great beer for the hop heads.

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Arrogant Bastard is not an IPA

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No? That is the style it most resembled to me. How would you classify it?

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IPA's by name are "pale." AB is brownish. It also has a sort of roasted malt character which is not present in IPAs. It doesn't really fit in with any specific style guidelines so it is characterized by Beer Advocate and Rate Beer as an "American Strong Ale."

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Yes, it does not fit cleanly. Old ale / IPA hybrid or the like because you are correct it is not just an IPA.

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Its an American Strong Ale.

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Defined as this?
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Description:
Catch all style category for beers from 7.0 percent alcohol by volume and above, Some may even be as high as 25% abv. Characteristics will greatly vary, some have similarities to Barley-wines and Old Ales. Barrel aging is certainly not out of the question.


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That strikes me as a useless category based upon % alcohol content that describes nothing of the beer's flavor. I agree with the old ale similarities but a barley wine? I haven't had it in a while so I may be misremembering but it was no barley wine.

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As I said it is not a beer that fits nicely into any category. Hence the phraseology "catch all." BTW, there are quite a few American Barleywines that are loaded up in hops. Rogue's Old Crustacean is 120 IBU I think. AB is not strong enough but DB could easily be called a barleywine.

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(BTW, Fat Bastard Wines is another exception-- damn good Shiraz)

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I don't want to hijack the thread but are you serious about this wine? Is it really good? I am only knowledgeable in french wines and some Italian ones. Always looking for new ones to try.

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It's pretty good for a $10 wine. It comes from France.

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Its an American Strong Ale.

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Defined as this?
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Description:
Catch all style category for beers from 7.0 percent alcohol by volume and above, Some may even be as high as 25% abv. Characteristics will greatly vary, some have similarities to Barley-wines and Old Ales. Barrel aging is certainly not out of the question.


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That strikes me as a useless category based upon % alcohol content that describes nothing of the beer's flavor. I agree with the old ale similarities but a barley wine? I haven't had it in a while so I may be misremembering but it was no barley wine.

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As I said it is not a beer that fits nicely into any category. Hence the phraseology "catch all." BTW, there are quite a few American Barleywines that are loaded up in hops. Rogue's Old Crustacean is 120 IBU I think. AB is not strong enough but DB could easily be called a barleywine.

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I've had that barleywine from Rogue and it tastes nothing like AB. Rogue's I2PA however resembles it to much higher (though far from perfect) degree.

I didn't see your explanation before I replied to CollinEstes'.