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MCS 10-18-2005 06:26 PM

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Maybe he picked up a hooker who turned out to be a 15 year old runaway.

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Something like this happened to me once.

I almost had a heart attack that day. Come to find out the girl was a 12-year old runaway. I was arrested; my car was impounded.

HopeydaFish 10-18-2005 06:26 PM

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On a related note, many released sex offenders have been hounded out of towns and cities, since they must identify themselves to local law enforcement. Concerned citizens then force said ex-con out of the area by various means. Should these people be locked up forever, or can they be cured? If the latter, will parents believe it to be true?

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Pedophiles can't be cured. Even if they're chemically castrated, the compulsion is still there. Pedophiles need to be locked up forever for the safety of society.

But not all sex offenders are pedophiles. And not everyone who is convicted of "statury rape" and such is a pedophile.

brassnuts 10-18-2005 06:28 PM

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Maybe he picked up a hooker who turned out to be a 15 year old runaway.

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Something like this happened to me once.

I almost had a heart attack that day. Come to find out the girl was a 12-year old runaway. I was arrested; my car was impounded.

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Couldn't you tell she was a bit too young?

HopeydaFish 10-18-2005 06:30 PM

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On a related note, many released sex offenders have been hounded out of towns and cities, since they must identify themselves to local law enforcement. Concerned citizens then force said ex-con out of the area by various means. Should these people be locked up forever, or can they be cured? If the latter, will parents believe it to be true?

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They can be cured the same way I cured my cats and dog. snip snip.

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Not in many cases. The compulsion is still there, even after castration. Pedophilia is basically a form of mental illness.

HopeydaFish 10-18-2005 06:30 PM

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Maybe he picked up a hooker who turned out to be a 15 year old runaway.

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Something like this happened to me once.

I almost had a heart attack that day. Come to find out the girl was a 12-year old runaway. I was arrested; my car was impounded.

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Couldn't you tell she was a bit too young?

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"I swear, officer, she looked at least 14!"

HopeydaFish 10-18-2005 06:31 PM

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Maybe he picked up a hooker who turned out to be a 15 year old runaway.

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Something like this happened to me once.

I almost had a heart attack that day. Come to find out the girl was a 12-year old runaway. I was arrested; my car was impounded.

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Did you have to register as a sex offender?

TheMainEvent 10-18-2005 06:32 PM

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Maybe he picked up a hooker who turned out to be a 15 year old runaway.

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Something like this happened to me once.

I almost had a heart attack that day. Come to find out the girl was a 12-year old runaway. I was arrested; my car was impounded.

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Wow, if this happened to me I certainly wouldn't ever admit it, even on the internet.

Cancer Merchant 10-18-2005 06:36 PM

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On a related note, many released sex offenders have been hounded out of towns and cities, since they must identify themselves to local law enforcement. Concerned citizens then force said ex-con out of the area by various means. Should these people be locked up forever, or can they be cured? If the latter, will parents believe it to be true?

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They can be cured the same way I cured my cats and dog. snip snip.

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This can and has been done via chemical castration. Once treated, I still doubt they'll be considered safe. When you're on a Megan's Law list, you don't get off.

Blarg 10-18-2005 06:47 PM

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On a related note, many released sex offenders have been hounded out of towns and cities, since they must identify themselves to local law enforcement. Concerned citizens then force said ex-con out of the area by various means. Should these people be locked up forever, or can they be cured? If the latter, will parents believe it to be true?

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Robert Ressler, founder of the F.B.I.'s profiling system, VICAP(Vicious Criminals Apprehension Program) database, and the man who coined the term "serial killer," believes child molesters cannot be rehabilitated, and that their sexuality is as much a core part of them as anything could be. I agree. By this he doesn't mean a 17 year old who sleeps with a 15 year old, or even a 30 year old who sleeps with a 15 year old, but the type who go after real, pre-sexual children. Fixation on this type of unlikely partner is not just a wayward impulse, but a sign of, of course, a seriously deranged sexuality and one that took a long time to become that way. You could no more undo their sexuality by rehabilitation than you could undo the entire personality or pull out the spinal cord. It's an organic part of the whole.

Many careers have been built on asserting that one has the cure for something or someone, and has applied it successfully. Psychologists let dangerous criminals out of institutionalization all the time, not only because there aren't enough places to put them in our crowded and underfunded hospitals and in our prisons, but also because their own paychecks and reputations can be tied to their supposed success with their patients. And also because, like anyone, they are subject to wishful thinking, simple error, and being conned. There will always be people who claim anyone with any problem can be cured, because the idea of a cure is not a strictly medical one. but is entangled with philosophy and even politics and religion. Whether child molesters should be locked up forever or not, they probably never will be.

Blarg 10-18-2005 06:48 PM

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why not go all the way? Put them in isolated communities, similar to leper colonies.

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2 words:


trial lawyers

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LOL, somebody found a political buzz word.


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