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ilya 10-09-2005 06:37 PM

Re: ($27) Call an allin with a draw?
 
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fold pre flop.

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it's 6-handed, raising this is very reasonable IMO.

ilya 10-09-2005 06:38 PM

Re: ($27) Call an allin with a draw?
 
As I said before I would call barring a read, as it is extremely unlikely that you're worse than 43% or so, and it's very possible that you're a moderate-to-huge favorite.

Bigdaddydvo 10-09-2005 07:32 PM

Re: ($27) Call an allin with a draw?
 
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fold pre flop.

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it's 6-handed, raising this is very reasonable IMO.

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I'm amazed that so many people oppose opening a pot six handed with a raise here UTG w/A9s...what cards are you waiting for? Are you all dumping 88 here too?

That said, folding PF is terribly weak-tight.

durron597 10-09-2005 09:28 PM

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This is only a $27 he could have easily called the (stupid) raise with 75s, 65s, A2 with the 2 of spades, etc. Seriously, this guy has a pretty massive range for this move. He could also have KJ with no spades.

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He is also a complete loose LAG idiot. He could have called me with 76s no spades and is pushing (although that I am not sure of, but this opponent I thought it was at least possible).

DyessMan89 10-09-2005 09:51 PM

Re: ($27) Call an allin with a draw?
 
All you weak-tighties who suggest folding preflop should take your thongs and go have a tea party or something.

6 handed you arent folding A9s, you are raising it. Enough said.

Pudge714 10-09-2005 10:04 PM

Re: ($27) Call an allin with a draw?
 
Not crazy over the preflop raise. It depends on a lot of things obviously table image, looseness of other pleyers etc. So I think it can be a good play, but can also be a bad play depending on what I said above.

microbet 10-09-2005 10:37 PM

Re: ($27) Call an allin with a draw?
 
call and win = .21
fold = .0975

.21 * x = .0975
x = .46

If he has a ten you are 40-46% to win depending on suits.

If he has trips you are 25.5% to win.

If he is bluffing you can have up to about 86% to win.

IMHO, his action and his stack make a bluff more likely than trips and his other possible hands make your call OK. So, call on that basis.

The preflop raise is fine IMHO as long as you don't think anyone (SB mainly) is pushing preflop with a fairly wide range. BUT, if SB will push with ANY two or something crazy, you are fine with getting it all in preflop.

durron597 10-10-2005 01:53 AM

Re: ($27) Call an allin with a draw?
 
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All you weak-tighties who suggest folding preflop should take your thongs and go have a tea party or something.

6 handed you arent folding A9s, you are raising it. Enough said.

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Nice to hear this from a guy who's loc is "Folds KK to a lone raise".

Actually the first few posts in this thread had gotten me to doubt the raise. Now I'm glad I was right [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Slim Pickens 10-10-2005 02:46 AM

Re: ($27) Call an allin with a draw?
 
What I'm saying is that it might be a bluff with any two on the flop, not just missed high cards, which is basically what the OP has anyway. The range is larger than just two high cards.

bawcerelli 10-10-2005 08:14 AM

Re: ($27) Call an allin with a draw?
 
i fold this preflop b/c hero doesn't have enough chips to raise, get called, then play post flop poker. if hero raises with this hand preflop hero should go all in, and the blinds just aren't high enough to justify that IMO.


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