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10-08-2005 03:15 PM

Re: AA in BB,8 limpers & I didn\'t raise. My buddy almost had a heartattack
 
AK o figures to win more than its fair share of the time. Raise it preflop, as long as you can play well overcards well postflop. [Compared to this thread, I'm beginning to think Tex's post on AT s was a work of wisdom.]

limitholdemshark 10-08-2005 04:46 PM

Re: AA in BB,8 limpers & I didn\'t raise. My buddy almost had a heartattack
 
THERE R 3 REASONS Y U RAISE.tO BUILD THE POT,TO THIN THE FIELD AND FOR INFO.iN THIS HAND U WANT 2 BUILD THE POT U HAVE WHAT IS COMMENLY CALLED 'risk aversion"u r afraid of losing money in a certain hand even though u r still a favorate in the long run against anyone elses hand.true ur winning percentages have gone down alot against this large feild but ur AA is still a top hand.so plaqy it the way its suppose 2 b played w a raise and then reevaluate on the flop,turn and then the river.I have won w pocket jj in an 11 handed flop.

limitholdemshark 10-08-2005 04:51 PM

Re: AA in BB,8 limpers & I didn\'t raise. My buddy almost had a heartat
 
u have what ios called "RISK AVERSION"DONT PLAY SCARED U LOSE TO MUCH

wrto4556 10-08-2005 04:55 PM

Re: UGH...Mods move this...
 
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this is a small stakes or beginner question.

try the search function.

its been answered a million times.

raise the goddamn aces before th poker gods strike you down for being an idiot.

Barron

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Just Listen to the man on the surfboard... Next.

DcifrThs 10-08-2005 04:59 PM

My avatar. NO CONTENT
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
this is a small stakes or beginner question.

try the search function.

its been answered a million times.

raise the goddamn aces before th poker gods strike you down for being an idiot.

Barron

[/ QUOTE ]

Just Listen to the man on the surfboard... Next.

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omg...h8 4 people who dont see that this is THIS:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...ths/bigarc.jpg

barron

wrto4556 10-08-2005 05:05 PM

Re: My avatar. NO CONTENT
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
this is a small stakes or beginner question.

try the search function.

its been answered a million times.

raise the goddamn aces before th poker gods strike you down for being an idiot.

Barron

[/ QUOTE ]

Just Listen to the man on the surfboard... Next.

[/ QUOTE ]

omg...h8 4 people who dont see that this is THIS:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...ths/bigarc.jpg

barron

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Worst part is.. I've already seen you show that to someone. Owned.

andyfox 10-08-2005 05:08 PM

Re: AA in BB,8 limpers & I didn\'t raise. My buddy almost had a heartattack
 
A crime against humanity.

Jim Easton 10-08-2005 06:01 PM

Re: AA in BB,8 limpers & I didn\'t raise. My buddy almost had a heartattack
 
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Would you rather play AA against 7 opponents or J10 Suited?


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Preflop, I'll take AA over any other hand in any situation.

JTs might be easier to play post-flop, but it has maybe half the EV in this situation.

Emperor 10-08-2005 06:30 PM

Re: AA in BB,8 limpers & I didn\'t raise. My buddy almost had a heartattack
 
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There are 3 good reasons why you would want to raise here: To build the pot, to thin the field, and for information. When you don't want to raise this hand, you have what is commonly called "risk aversion". You are afraid of losing money in a certain hand even though you are still a favorate in the long run. Although it is true that your winning percentages have gone down significantly against this large of a field. Your AA is still a top hand. My suggestion, would be to play it the way its supposed to be played, raise and then reevaluate on the flop, turn, and then the river. I have won with pocket jj in an 11 handed flop. (16 person table)

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FYP

TimTimSalabim 10-08-2005 06:31 PM

Re: AA in BB,8 limpers & I didn\'t raise. My buddy almost had a heartattack
 
Since this is a 15 game, I'm guessing 8 limpers means there were a lot of mediocre/loose players, I'd go ahead and raise every time. At higher limits, where you might find a lot of good/loose players, issues of pot size manipulation and deception theoretically could be enough to outweigh raising for value. But in this case those other considerations have to outweigh getting 8 more bets into the pot, which with AA are going to be yours a very healthy % of the time, which adds up to a ton of value, so even then I doubt I'd pass that up.

Edit: To clarify what I mean by "theoretically", I mean if your hand was a lot weaker (say AK instead of AA), and there were a lot fewer limpers, the value in raising is a lot less, and could theoretically be outweighed by other considerations. AA in the BB with 8 limpers is a no-brainer raise in any game IMO.


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