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MegaBet 10-05-2005 11:19 AM

Re: Every Option seems bad
 
So when people do this you put them on 55, 66 or A3? That's laughable! How many hands have at least 2 overcards?

AA, AK, AQ, AJ, A10, A9, A8, KK, KQ, KJ, K10, K9, K8, QQ, QJ, Q10, Q9, Q8, JJ, J10, J9, J8, 1010, 109, 108, 99, 98, 88...all EXTREMELY likely from a tightish player (as mentioned by the OP). However you put them on 55, 66, A3!

Sorry to embarrass you like this, but you did kinda ask for it. I took you off ignore because I gave you a second chance to redeem yourself. However, it's obviously clear you are not here for discussion with differing points of view than your own. You're not a good player, so you can rejoin the others who give out bad advice on my ignore list.

inyaface 10-05-2005 11:39 AM

Re: Every Option seems bad
 
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So when people do this you put them on 55, 66 or A3?

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No however these hands are definatly in the range. The fact that someone ran this hand through SNG power tools and your compleatly ignoring it shows your lack of a want to improve. Frankly I thought this was a clear fold but after realising how plus EV it could be with the stated range I am starting to reconsider as should you.
Also don't flame someone who probably puts at least as much thought into their posts as anyone else on this fourm.

bigt439 10-05-2005 11:47 AM

Re: Every Option seems bad
 
Just incredible.

Yeah, let's do the whole ignore thing.

MegaBet 10-05-2005 11:50 AM

Re: Every Option seems bad
 
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Also don't flame someone who probably puts at least as much thought into their posts as anyone else on this fourm.

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Not flaming anyone. Just responding to this "thoughtful" post.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...;o=14&vc=1

pineapple888 10-05-2005 01:23 PM

Re: Every Option seems bad
 
Everyone seems to be voting fold here, but
1.) with huge blinds
2.) no shorty about to go out
3.) and having the SB covered by enough that you'll have at least some chance if you lose

I think you have to shove it in.

But how exactly did he raise 1200 to 1800 from SB?

crownjules 10-05-2005 01:33 PM

Re: Every Option seems bad
 
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But how exactly did he raise 1200 to 1800 from SB?

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He has to automatically call the 300 to equal the BB (600). Then he raises the 1200 to get to 1800.

runner4life7 10-05-2005 01:33 PM

Re: Every Option seems bad
 
I have to agree fully with bigt here and I think megabet is missing the point completely. He isnt saying that he always has 55,66, A3, but that he can. 77 is a fav over overcards not an underdog, blinds are big, you have more than he does. Would you do 8s, 9s, or 10s here? or just play tight to blind level 10,000/20,000.

10-05-2005 02:00 PM

Re: Every Option seems bad
 
With no reads I would Push the 7’s.

From what I have read, considering there is no really small stack, when folded to the SB (with the BB or the SB with stacks less or equal to 10 big blinds) it is correct for the SB to push any 2. I wouldn’t put the small blind on any 2 in a $25 sit’n’go.

Again this is with no reads. The tightest range I can put SB on is A-6 o, A-2s, any pair, any 2 10 or higher, K-8 ‘s Q-9’s. I believe 7’s are little better then 50% against this range (I’m at work and do not have my poker tools). So with the money already in the pot, the blinds this high and a little bit of folding equity. I push.

This may be a leak of mine so feel free to jump all over this if you feel I am wrong. We are all here to learn [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

UMTerp 10-05-2005 02:02 PM

Re: Every Option seems bad
 
I'm not saying that it's correct to play here, but if you do so, I think calling is superior to pushing. It's safe to say that 98%+ of opponents will call a preflop push.

If he pushes the flop (or any other street), put the rest of your chips in no matter what.

If he checks for some reason, you can either check it down and hopefully preserve some chips and precious FE (he doesn't want to bust either), or you can push your last 1K if checked to on the flop and the board looks to be in your favor. It's not likely, but a really bad opponent could find a fold depending on the board.

You're not losing anything by calling instead of pushing preflop.

pooh74 10-05-2005 02:13 PM

Re: Every Option seems bad
 
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I'm not saying that it's correct to play here, but if you do so, I think calling is superior to pushing. It's safe to say that 98%+ of opponents will call a preflop push.

If he pushes the flop (or any other street), put the rest of your chips in no matter what.

If he checks for some reason, you can either check it down and hopefully preserve some chips and precious FE (he doesn't want to bust either), or you can push your last 1K if checked to on the flop and the board looks to be in your favor. It's not likely, but a really bad opponent could find a fold depending on the board.

You're not losing anything by calling instead of pushing preflop.

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Im not quite as ready to call on any flop, but I like this choice best. I just cant believe it took a UM guy to come up with it. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Im comin for ya at the 60s terp...6 more months, enjoy them.


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