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The Commodus character, other than the ridiculous incest connotation, is hopelessly one dimensional despite Phoenix's acting.

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I hope by ridiculous, you mean historically accurate.

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I still think Braveheart is the greatest epic of our generation.

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Unfortunately, I liked the movie so much I decided to look up some info on William Wallace. I then realized how distorted the film is. Now, I'm bothered by some of the extreme historical inaccuracies, including the battles.

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I only compared them because they were both huge epic films from "our" time. They are the two movies (IMHO) that stand up, while so many others - troy & the other garbage - stink up the screen.

The reply to my post compared them much closer than I did...I just think that Braveheart was a better film from that genre.


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Look, I enjoyed Gladiator and think it is a good film, don't get me wrong. But, when I saw Braveheart for the first time at the theatre it was a more exciting, stirring watch with a plot that seemed to be pretty closely followed in Gladiator. However, the themes of nationalism, patriotism and even socialism in Braveheart don't exist in Gladiator. Mel proved he could exploit an audience as well as Spielberg. But Braveheart is pretty flawed as well. There are some bad sub-plots, bad mugging by Mel, even bad editing. At one point in the first battle scene during the cavalry charge into the long spears of the Scots, we clearly see the spears raised, out of sequence. As well, there are the usual problems, in both movies, of having a large scale battle sequence where a bunch of extras look like they are on vacation and barely tap one another.

But, I agree with you that they both are good epics which we don't really see much of. I would say that that was what was really rewarded at oscar time.


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they both stared aussies? i don't know. this has to be one of the dumbest comparisons ever.


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I don't see how anyone could not see how similiar the two movies are. Perhaps you didn't see them at the theatre or saw Gladiator first, before Braveheart. Anyway, you, stfu, I'm trying to make a point.

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I hope by ridiculous, you mean historically accurate.

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Well, this incestuous subplot may be historically accurate but I have read where the subplot in Braveheart about Robert the Bruce's rotting father was also pretty accurate, it doesn't make it less ridiculous.

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5 star rating systems are inferior to 4 star rating systems.

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5 star rating systems are inferior to 4 star rating systems.

-ptmusic

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On what planet? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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I say four...and if Braveheart hadn't beaten it by a couple years maybe five. I still think Braveheart is the greatest epic of our generation.

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I thought Braveheart was very good, not great. That final scene was just gay.

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Glad I'm not the only one.

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Bite my ass.

Bring it, Commodus.

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I say four...and if Braveheart hadn't beaten it by a couple years maybe five. I still think Braveheart is the greatest epic of our generation.

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I thought Braveheart was very good, not great. That final scene was just gay.

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FU [censored].