Re: On the river in my boat
 

Sure, why not? On absolute hand value hero has an overboat. MP's hand range can be narrowed down to only combinations of J,T,6,5, and hero has a majority of those beat. On feel alone, I'd say he is about even money vs. CO as well, giving him AA-TT with his non-set hands discounted somewhat.

Re: On the river in my boat
 

Hey Qtip,

Why did you bet the river?

Re: On the river in my boat
 

I really don't have any rational reason why but when I first read the post I put MP1 on J5s. I figured CO 3 bet the river because he though he just counterfeited other 2 pair hands with his high PP.

Against the donks we play against I can't see folding this.

Re: On the river in my boat
 

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Hey Qtip,

Why did you bet the river?

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That's really a solid question.

I guess the last thing on my mind was a cheap showdown. I was thinking value. However, I did think a set of 5s was possible from MP on the turn especially since I really hadn't seen him get this active in a hand.

I would have called his raise, really, it was the CO that really hit me there.

The next interesting question would be if I checked and mP1 bet and CO raised, would I have called? And my answer would be yes. But, I think it would be different there in that I gave a sign of weakness. But, it's interesting how I might have ended up at 3, maybe even 4 bets that way anyway...justifying my calls along the way.

As it stands, I've shown nothing but strength and the same goes for MP1, so I gave CO a lot better holding.

Re: On the river in my boat
 

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Your fold here is the antithesis of big pot strategy, and I really think that it is the worst of your 3 options

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I think people are also forgetting that QT has to put in 3 bets to see this showdown, so it's not your typical "don't fold big pots for 1 bet". From a pure EV standpoint, it's the equivalent of 1 bet in a 10 bet pot, which isn't all that monster of a laydown.

FWIW, I don't think QTip would even consider folding if he were closing the action for one bet.

Re: On the river in my boat
 

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<font color="blue">Jason:</font> i call and i have some math to say why
<font color="blue">Jason:</font> do i have to post it ? i'm lazy

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I'm hoping he'll unlazy soon and post it.

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I'll post it later, maybe tonight.