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ErrantNight 09-19-2005 02:28 PM

Re: TT facing 2 on the flop
 
i don't think a fold if it comes back two cold again would be a terrible mistake, if it were a mistake at all (i might be overestimating the importance of this call for reasons other than correct odds, because it's thin), and i don't think this comes back capped terribly often. pick one, cold-call with the intention of calling if it comes back capped, or cold-call with the intention of folding if it comes back capped (but calling for one more) and run with it. just don't raise or fold.

Aviston 09-19-2005 02:45 PM

Re: TT facing 2 on the flop
 
Here's the rest of the hand:

Flop: (14.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 caps</font>, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (13.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

River: (16.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Hero folds, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 18.25 BB.

As you can see, I didn't have you sitting next to me, so I 3 bet the flop. On the turn I picked up a gutshot, and with the massive pot I'm pretty sure I had more than enough odds to call even if some of my outs were tainted.

With the flush draw and an overcard hitting on the river, I couldn't imagine I was ahead here like ever although, UTG+1's check confuses me a bit.

ErrantNight 09-19-2005 02:55 PM

Re: TT facing 2 on the flop
 
after the flop 3-bet you played this fine.

i think the turn call here is fine

@bsolute_luck 09-19-2005 03:19 PM

Re: TT facing 2 on the flop
 
can we see the results please?

SenecaJim 09-19-2005 09:15 PM

Re: TT facing 2 on the flop
 
I second abluck. share results please. I know it doesn't influence how the hand is played, I am just really curious now as to what prompted that betting cycle of your opponents.

DrewOnTilt 09-19-2005 10:58 PM

Re: TT facing 2 on the flop
 
[ QUOTE ]
Here's the rest of the hand:

Flop: (14.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 caps</font>, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (13.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

River: (16.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Hero folds, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 18.25 BB.

As you can see, I didn't have you sitting next to me, so I 3 bet the flop. On the turn I picked up a gutshot, and with the massive pot I'm pretty sure I had more than enough odds to call even if some of my outs were tainted.

With the flush draw and an overcard hitting on the river, I couldn't imagine I was ahead here like ever although, UTG+1's check confuses me a bit.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm guessing that MP3 was pumping the flush draw.

Did UTG have a set? I assume he had 77, 88, or even 22 since the only hand that I can fathom being played this way is T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], and that's not possible since you held the T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (or 87s if he's really loose preflop).

Aviston 09-20-2005 04:17 AM

Re: TT facing 2 on the flop
 
Here ya go:

River: (16.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Hero folds, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 18.25 BB.
MP3 has Kh Kd (three of a kind, kings.)
UTG+1 has 2h 2d (three of a kind, twos.)
MP3 wins 14.50 BB.

I was suprised that he bet a made set into a field of PF raisers.


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