Re: I\'m trying to learn how to fold
 

I would have probably agonized and folded on the turn also, but I can certainly see the case for showing down on a non-flush river card.

If you were in CO's shoes, how would you guys play KK?
I think I would have to fold on the turn.

Thanks,
Cartman

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I know you want comments on your flop play.. but I think when you 3-bet PF the hand plays an entirely different way. I think the fold is good given the way you played the flop.

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Someone says that he has to have you beat "unless he is a total nut." Well guess what, Party Poker and all internet sites for that matter are full of nuts, and I would pay this hand off. Especially since there is a draw on the board, and even without it I call this down and it is good far more than you would think. Since I started calling hands like this down my winrate has gone way up, and I am willing to lose more pots, because the ones I win more than compensate for the few bad ones. Maybe against a weak player this is a fold, but not against the chumps I see daily on party.

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Someone says that he has to have you beat "unless he is a total nut." Well guess what, Party Poker and all internet sites for that matter are full of nuts, and I would pay this hand off. Especially since there is a draw on the board, and even without it I call this down and it is good far more than you would think. Since I started calling hands like this down my winrate has gone way up, and I am willing to lose more pots, because the ones I win more than compensate for the few bad ones. Maybe against a weak player this is a fold, but not against the chumps I see daily on party.

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We've already established that villain is TAG.

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I know you want comments on your flop play.. but I think when you 3-bet PF the hand plays an entirely different way. I think the fold is good given the way you played the flop.

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ya 3betting pf is my standard play, i thin the only reason i didnt was cuz i had two HU tables going at teh time.

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Aside from the preflop/flop wierdness I like it.

Krishan

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Im assuming this means u three bet preflop...but as it was played you go into WA/WB mode (or just call the flop raise as played)?

Re: I\'m trying to learn how to fold
 

Since you planned on folding to a raise, I'd rather check/call the river.

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Aside from the preflop/flop wierdness I like it.

Krishan

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Im assuming this means u three bet preflop...but as it was played you go into WA/WB mode (or just call the flop raise as played)?

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Not 3-betting preflop and leading the flop.

Krishan

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ya 3betting pf is my standard play, i thin the only reason i didnt was cuz i had two HU tables going at teh time.

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i hate 3betting with AJo out of position multiway vs a TAG raise here. you don't have dominating equity and it makes it harder to play postflop

Re: I\'m trying to learn how to fold
 

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