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yes.. it was a joke. A bad, bad joke.

Re: How much does the increased rake at party effect us?
 

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It's at 5/10 too, I think it's when the pot is above $70 but I'm not sure yet.

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3/6 also. This is terrible.

Re: How much does the increased rake at party effect us?
 

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yes.. it was a joke. A bad, bad joke.

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sorry, my sarcasm indicator must just be busted.

But lots of people actually think that way, which is why I thought you were serious.

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I have!

I don't see this being something we can change. It sucks, but in no universe does a change is rake make Party a worse place to play that other sites. It's a captive market, and a vocal minority isn't going to change that.

The obvious solution is that we all need to get like .15BB/100 better.

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i dont get as worked up over the short term losses, moreso the fact that the fish are now losing money at a more rapid pace.

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WTF, is there some secret illuminati for online poker where they all decide to go against the proven workings of economics and [censored] everyone over all at the same time?

or are they just that stupid?

"oooo, site Y just upped their rake big time, we dont want to fall behind, all the players might flock to that site, we better hurry and up ours too!!!"

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They are not stupid, they are brilliant. They rely on the majority of their users being stupid. And they are right.

Of course they have no problem being unethical about it and not inform their customers that the price of the service has just increased.

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I keep a massive party 5/10 mined database (pm me if you wanna buy). It evinces a .13BB/100 increase in rake due to the changes.

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.13BB/100 is .09BB/100 after rakeback. Really not much at all if you're right.

Re: How much does the increased rake at party effect us?
 

Are we sure it was $2 before? I am pretty sure the break off point is 5 people.

Re: How much does the increased rake at party effect us?
 

Would anyone be able to tell me how many BB/100 this will take off a 3/6 player?

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It will be more at 10/20 since more pots will reach $70.

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I have!

I don't see this being something we can change. It sucks, but in no universe does a change is rake make Party a worse place to play that other sites. It's a captive market, and a vocal minority isn't going to change that.

The obvious solution is that we all need to get like .15BB/100 better.

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i dont get as worked up over the short term losses, moreso the fact that the fish are now losing money at a more rapid pace.

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The thing is that other things that were supposed to make the fish lose money faster (more 30/60 tables, tables higher than 30/60) don't seem to have hurt the fish population. I feel like the fish may be plentiful enough where the fact that they lose money faster won't have a meaningful effect on anybody's earn (beyond the effect of the rake increase itself) (and I'm basically guessing here).