Re: Playing against a MANIAC
 

I completely missed the pf call, which I think is poor. Also not a great opportunity to isolate with a raise. Yes, you have good relative position. I still don't think it's a profitable call.

Re: Playing against a MANIAC
 

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I completely missed the pf call, which I think is poor. Also not a great opportunity to isolate with a raise. Yes, you have good relative position. I still don't think it's a profitable call.

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CO was raising EVERY hand. You have to dig your heels in once in a while and I got in cheap.

Re: Playing against a MANIAC
 

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I completely missed the pf call, which I think is poor. Also not a great opportunity to isolate with a raise. Yes, you have good relative position. I still don't think it's a profitable call.

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CO was raising EVERY hand. You have to dig your heels in once in a while and I got in cheap.

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I have no problem with that sentiment. But A6o mulitiway? No thanks.

Re: Playing against a MANIAC
 

Your play on the river mimics exactly what I would have done in this scenario.

... "when you don't want overcalls." Vnh sir. You made MP2 fold a better hand.

Re: Playing against a MANIAC
 

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I completely missed the pf call, which I think is poor. Also not a great opportunity to isolate with a raise. Yes, you have good relative position. I still don't think it's a profitable call.

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CO was raising EVERY hand. You have to dig your heels in once in a while and I got in cheap.

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I am not worried about the CO raiser, I am worried about the other callers in the pot. I would only play A6o if I could get the pot HU against the maniac. That is why I would either raise or fold this preflop. I do not like calling.

Re: Playing against a MANIAC
 

True, you need to dig in your heels once in a while, but you need to do a better job of picking your spots.

A6o HU against a maniac = [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
A6o OOP multiway = [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Re: Playing against a MANIAC
 

PREFLOP CALL: Terrible. A6o in the SB is not even a complete, never mind calling a raise. Check it in your position stats.

FLOP RAISE: Awful. Your behind and drawing to 6 outs if your lucky.

TURN CALL: Good with 9 nine outs in this now inflated pot.

RIVER: Recommend: FOLD

DIAGNOSIS: Yikes! It looks like you were trying to beat the maniac by becoming somewhat manicidal yourself or you had gone on tilt.

Re: Playing against a MANIAC
 

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PREFLOP CALL: Terrible. A6o in the SB is not even a complete, never mind calling a raise. Check it in your position stats.

FLOP RAISE: Awful. Your behind and drawing to 6 outs if your lucky.

TURN CALL: Good with 9 nine outs in this now inflated pot.

RIVER: Recommend: FOLD

DIAGNOSIS: Yikes! It looks like you were trying to beat the maniac by becoming somewhat manicidal yourself or you had gone on tilt.

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Axo is almost an auto complete from the SB for me. A6o is probably an always complete.

You can't count my preflop call in this hand as calling a raise because the villain was raising EVERY hand. Therefore it was more like completing in the SB with no raise which I've already said I do.

I've been known to tilt at times (ok, a bunch of times) but there was none here.

Re: Playing against a MANIAC
 

Hi gr,

Check your SB Position stats for AXo in the SB.

I started a thread about A9o in the SB about 4 months ago, and when I looked into it more, I found out A9o was a marginal complete. Most responders agreed. I took a look but can't find the thread. I continued completing with A9o-A7o for a while after that but kept an eye on them, and eventually decided they were all -EV.

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Hi gr,

Check your SB Position stats for AXo in the SB.

I started a thread about A9o in the SB about 4 months ago, and when I looked into it more, I found out A9o was a marginal complete. Most responders agreed. I took a look but can't find the thread. I continued completing with A9o-A7o for a while after that but kept an eye on them, and eventually decided they were all -EV.

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A2o -0.25bb/hand break even

A3o -0.63bb/hand bad

A4o -0.33BB/hand not AS bad

A5o -.50BB/hand bad

A6o -.17BB/hand better than folding

A7o -0.05BB/hand even better

A8o +0.20BB/hand alright

A9o +0.67BB/hand now we're talkin

ATo 0.00BB/hand weird

Now that you mention this I remember looking at these a couple of months ago and actually stopped playing A5o and below from the SB. Somewhere along the line that slipped my mind so I thank you for reminding me. I'll be knocking off those completes from now on.

I still defend my choice of calling the A6o in this hand though. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]