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08-09-2005 09:40 AM

Re: Suggestions for Sports Betting Forum FAQ
 
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Encourage people to post some type of rationale with their picks.

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or better yet, not post them [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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Don't get sassy with me just because you're sore that Dead is gone.

Phishy McFish 08-18-2005 10:58 AM

Martingale, not the 1st, and yes there is a flaw
 
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craig r 08-19-2005 10:05 AM

Re: Suggestions for Sports Betting Forum FAQ
 
I can help you with the FAQ if you want. A few things though. As far as handicapping techniques, methodology, etc... I think we could leave that off. Main reason being that most of the "sharp" guys here really don't have any. And like I said the other day, it is sad, but maybe sometimes we can send them to SSB.com. And, I get the feeling that Sublime, Tech, Shakes, and myself are much better line shoppers than we are cappers. I know you have said that you make a lot of your money on scalps. It is a lot of work, but it isn't handicapping. And I don't think you should have to post your scalps. At least not for free.

I think listing Sportsbookreview.com is a good idea. They are fairly reliable. And I think we should have a seperate sticky post for them. Thay way we don't get the same question everyday "what is a good book". Because I know the books that double deal lines and I am not going to tell them to everybody. I am not trying to be a jerk, but this is a pretty cut throat business. I am willing to work with some people, not you [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img], but we don't have to give up everything. They don't at SSB.com and I don't think we should have to either. Once again, I am not being a jerk. But, doing research takes a lot of work, and I don't think we should have to give away all of our secrets (i.e. always bet really heavy on road favorites..:) ).

So, what am I saying at 6:30 in the morning?...lets list sportsbooks and the bonuses (maybe we can even find a way for all the main participants to split the referrals), lets discuss the value of line shopping, lets figure out what lines are better (for example is +3 +120 better than +3.5 -110..just an example), lets cut down on any spam, all picks must be placed here with no outside links (even the record must be kept here), if we find a scalp/middle we can post it, but don't have to until we actually bet it.

A few other things, when people post "I am taking GB -7, what do you guys think?" I think we would all be better off if we asked them why they were betting it. Then we create dialogue and will actually learn something.

No, "I told you so b.s." That is too results oriented. If a guy loses he feels bad enough. We don't need to make him feel worse.

I think one of us should be responsible for posting the opening lines for the week Sunday night. I think we can all learn a lot from that. I am willing to do this as well. We can use OLY (I think they usually come out with the first lines..if not them then def. Pinny).

Oh, and just like SSB, if you make an official play, you should have to post a widely available line, but feel free to tell where and what you actually bet (for example if GB is -7 -110 at most places, that is yoru play, but you can mention that -6.5 115 can be found at WWTS).

I think parlays should be discussed, but not for months on end. Just a short bit on the common correlated parlays.

So, those are just my thoughts. I just want this place to be a good learning experience where we can all make some money.

craig

p.s. Scalf is exempt from any rules/ideas mentioned above. The pure entertaintment value of his picks outweighs anything I could learn [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] .

08-22-2005 10:24 AM

Re: Suggestions for Sports Betting Forum FAQ
 
This is my first time reading this forum, so my questions are as pretty basic. Also, I don't know all the vernacular yet, so bear with me.

1) How do I get started betting sports. Where can I find reliable bookers?

2) How do the sports books make their money if they take any bet that you make?
2a) Do bookers make their money giving bad odds to the overrated teams like the Yankees because they expect people to always bet on them?
2b) Are there betting fees involved?

3) How much variance is involved with sports betting

4) Where do you research for your bets?
4a) Is researching mlb.com all the resources you need to make a good bet on an mlb game?

5) How hard is line shopping?

6) How exactly do the odds work?
6a) If site 1, 2, and 3 gave the following odds, which one would you pick if you were 80% sure the marlins would win? Would you pick site 2 because you have to bet the least to get the same return?
6b) Site B would require you to bet $2.60 to win $1?

(Dodgers/Marlins)
Site 1: +229/-269
Site 2: +240/-260
Site 3: +230/-270
6c) I am looking at the Phillies vs: Giants game and both teams have -lines. One of them is -110/-110. Why are both numbers negative? The Phillies are playing much better than the Giants this year, why are the lines the same?

TheGame1020 08-22-2005 04:55 PM

Re: Suggestions for Sports Betting Forum FAQ
 
To answer your question about the lines with the Phillies and Marlins. That is only one game, each game has different pitchers, and other factors that help make the line. The numbers are both "negative" because the game is even money. So they are just charging the regular juice you would get from betting a pointspread in an NFL or NBA game.

08-24-2005 02:45 PM

Re: Suggestions for Sports Betting Forum FAQ
 
I have another question. I saw a good line today with the Mets -1.5 at +129. That means the Mets have to win by 1.5 runs for me to win the bet. What exactly is 1.5 runs? Does it always mean 2 runs?

If the Mets are the home team (they aren't, but pretend they are) do the mets only have to win by 1 run, and they'll be credited with .5 runs since they don't get to bat in the 9th?

Or is the -1.5 one of those tricks like how gas is priced at 149 and 9/10 to get more people to bet.

MasterShakes 08-24-2005 03:53 PM

Re: Suggestions for Sports Betting Forum FAQ
 
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I have another question. I saw a good line today with the Mets -1.5 at +129. That means the Mets have to win by 1.5 runs for me to win the bet. What exactly is 1.5 runs? Does it always mean 2 runs?

If the Mets are the home team (they aren't, but pretend they are) do the mets only have to win by 1 run, and they'll be credited with .5 runs since they don't get to bat in the 9th?

Or is the -1.5 one of those tricks like how gas is priced at 149 and 9/10 to get more people to bet.

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If the Mets win by one run, they lose. If the Mets lose the game, they lose. If the Mets win by two runs or more, they WIN.

08-26-2005 11:46 AM

Re: Suggestions for Sports Betting Forum FAQ
 
I plan on betting on the Royals at +1.5 at +160. What happens if the Royals Lose 3-1 tonight? Is my bet a tie?

How about if I make a bet on Under 8 and the total runs equal exactly 8? Does everyone lose who bet over/under 8?

MasterShakes 08-26-2005 12:32 PM

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I plan on betting on the Royals at +1.5 at +160. What happens if the Royals Lose 3-1 tonight? Is my bet a tie?

How about if I make a bet on Under 8 and the total runs equal exactly 8? Does everyone lose who bet over/under 8?

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You lose. You're only getting 1.5, not 2. 1 + 1.5 = 2.5. The other team scored 3. 3 is more than 2.5.

tech 08-29-2005 01:26 AM

Re: Suggestions for Sports Betting Forum FAQ
 
Sorry this is taking so long. I have been really busy lately and just haven't had a chance to sit down and finish typing it up. It is high on my priority list, I promise.


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