Re: i called
 

You've likely got 12 outs and there's even a decent chance he's just on a draw. You might even be ahead. I'll call here.

Oh, and yes, I lead out on the flop too. And I'm calling a push after leading out.

Re: most everyone is saying to to lead into the flop
 

You could still fold -if- he moves in (depends how much you pushed with on the flop). Point is, you can push on the flop and hope to pick up the pot right there and still have a chance to hit it if he calls and a club falls.

Results
 

the guy turned up 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (TPLK) which supported my belief that he had a hand that was'nt really all that good and did'nt want to be called with.

i had 12 outs (3 Kings and 9 diamonds).

turn is a 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. i now have 14 outs (3 Kings, 2 sevens, and 9 diamonds).

river is the A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Re: Results
 

Diamonds??? Huh??? Didn't you have a club draw that hit on the river?

Re: Results
 

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Diamonds??? Huh??? Didn't you have a club draw that hit on the river?

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yes, and your point?

Re: HU: chipleader Kc 7c What\'s your move?
 

When I say its player dependent I mean it. Not knowing who you are playing against I have no idea if you are ahead or behind specifically. Against typical player you are behind to a pair.

Re: most everyone is saying to to lead into the flop
 

If you make a pot sized bet on the flop you can't fold to an all in cause the odds are too good. It shows more strength but remember your lead is gonna win this hand right then 3/4 of the time or more.

Re: Results
 

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Diamonds??? Huh??? Didn't you have a club draw that hit on the river?

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yes, and your point?

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well read your post and you tell me.

Not a big deal, but I didn't understand how a club draw turned into a diamond draw. forget it.

Re: HU: chipleader Kc 7c What\'s your move?
 

Easy call. I doubt he would play a hand stronger than top pair this way. Only hand you are really worried about is higher flush draw. Then again he would probably reraise you preflop with a suited ace. You easily have the pot odds against his hand range so CALL.