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ilya 07-04-2005 03:52 AM

Re: Anybody fold here?
 
Yes, I fold, although it's somewhat close. I don't think calling is a HUGE mistake.

I would call with AK, AQs, AA-88.

Bigwig 07-04-2005 04:01 AM

Re: Anybody fold here?
 
I fold.

Immediately.

Bigwig 07-04-2005 04:09 AM

Re: Anybody fold here?
 
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i fold all but aa and kk here.

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You're kidding, right?

I beat him to the pot here, push it.

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Awful.

I beg many posters to pay attention to Adanthar, Curtains, Apathy, Raptor, and many others who would explain more clearly than I could to fold this.

And, it's not close.

MeanGreenTT 07-04-2005 09:22 AM

Re: Anybody fold here?
 
Forgive me 'cause I'm still new and always learning but may I take a shot, moreso just to satisfy my own curiosity if I'm on the right track here....

Is advocating the fold centered around the chip stack sizes and the fact that the Button will be blinded out on the next 2 hands and you can pick a better spot? Thanks

Karak567 07-04-2005 11:31 AM

Re: Anybody fold here?
 
I guess I suck [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

ok you guys convinced me, haha

11t 07-04-2005 11:34 AM

Re: Anybody fold here?
 
Live and learn.

microbet 07-04-2005 11:40 AM

Re: Anybody fold here?
 
Mostly that. You are pretty close to having 2nd place locked up. Doubling up hardly guarantees first place. Put those together and you need a bit better reason than AT.

johnnybeef 07-04-2005 11:46 AM

Re: Anybody fold here?
 
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I totally agree with you about the OP.

But, you said you only call with AA and KK.

Mostly to be a pain, I'm gonna have to call you out on QQ.

I think JJ is debatable, but a good call and possibly a couple more hands, depending on how aggressive villian is.

I request you cave on QQ.

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I did an icm on a slightly similar situation, and I figured that JJ+ and AK would be my calling range (I was way off). Depending upon his push range, AK and JJ were both always -$EV, and QQ was very dependent, as many people will push any king or ace in this situation. I think the only way that QQ became very profitable was if they are pushing any two or somewhere near that. So without being at the table and knowing for sure that he is pushing any two, I will fold QQ until then.


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