Re: Hand from $5000 Pot limit WSOP event
 

When your friend called the turn, he told Bigler that he was showing this hand down, and Bigler responded accordingly. Your friend is best case splitting the pot and very, very likely beat. This type of scenario has happened to me in three big tournies, and every time the pro showed the nuts. Pros don't try to push guys that have shown they are committed to the pot off of hands they cant beat.

Re: Hand from $5000 Pot limit WSOP event
 

Yes, it's what I would do. Honest.

The rank of your hand means jack sh*t. You have to account for the flop texture, your opponent, his betting patterns, and the nature of this hand.

To make a more extreme example, it's like seeing an AAA flop. You're holding 22.

Your first thought should not be "omfg I turned a full house".

Likewise you should not be thinking AQ is the nuts against a tight player like bigler on a QJxQ board.

In making the above assumption, checking behind on the turn makes the most sense.

Re: Hand from $5000 Pot limit WSOP event
 

[ QUOTE ]
IIRC Bigler is insanely tight.



[/ QUOTE ]

no

Re: Hand from $5000 Pot limit WSOP event
 

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
IIRC Bigler is insanely tight.



[/ QUOTE ]

no

[/ QUOTE ]

then im calling the river here now

Re: Hand from $5000 Pot limit WSOP event
 

[ QUOTE ]
I guarantee that for Chris Bigler (one of the best in the world at PLHE) to be putting 66% of his stack in the middle on the very first hand of a 2-day tournament, he has the nuts or very, very, very close to it. I doubt Bigler would play 55 or QJ out of position on hand #1, so he has JJ approximately 100% of the time. The absolute best-case scenario for your friend is that he has A-Q and a slpit-pot. This is a clear-as-day fold.

[/ QUOTE ]

so actually what you're saying is that bigler is horrible.

Re: Hand from $5000 Pot limit WSOP event
 

Interesting discussion, now im really curious to know what he had.

Re: Hand from $5000 Pot limit WSOP event
 

hmm he CR the turn when it paired the top for T1500 and then he bets only 1500 on the river? Something is not right, against an unknown that seems to be almost married to this hand on the turn.

At this point I have to ask myself what Chris is Saving the rest of his chips for? Obviously he has to put the other guy on possibly a Q after the CR cold call. If so against an unknown I'd think he'd want to get most of that in if he does have a boat. Something isn't right with the river bet after the previous action, seems weakishly small and I'd think he'd get the rest of his T5k chips in there if he had any boat (possible exception being 5's full)

Re: Hand from $5000 Pot limit WSOP event
 

[ QUOTE ]


no

[/ QUOTE ]

k then

Re: Hand from $5000 Pot limit WSOP event
 

I agree with strassa. I check behind on the turn. KT is the only likely draw, and an A gives you a full house, so I don't think a free card is likely to hurt.

On the river, you are more likely to get action if you are ahead, and you can get a cheaper showdown if you are behind.

Re: Hand from $5000 Pot limit WSOP event
 

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I guarantee that for Chris Bigler (one of the best in the world at PLHE) to be putting 66% of his stack in the middle on the very first hand of a 2-day tournament, he has the nuts or very, very, very close to it. I doubt Bigler would play 55 or QJ out of position on hand #1, so he has JJ approximately 100% of the time. The absolute best-case scenario for your friend is that he has A-Q and a slpit-pot. This is a clear-as-day fold.

[/ QUOTE ]

so actually what you're saying is that bigler is horrible.

[/ QUOTE ]

How exactly does that follow?