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soah 06-18-2005 03:48 AM

Re: HELP - I keep getting killed with AA
 
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You should have made it at least 4 to go pre-flop. Most people at this level will play crap hands when someone raises 3x BB pre-flop from MP, ESPECIALLY at 6 max.

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Sounds like a good reason to raise 3x.

imported_anacardo 06-18-2005 03:50 AM

Re: HELP - I keep getting killed with AA
 
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You should have made it at least 4 to go pre-flop. Most people at this level will play crap hands when someone raises 3x BB pre-flop from MP, ESPECIALLY at 6 max.

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Sounds like a good reason to raise 3x.

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That's fine thinking, but potting the flop is mandatory if you want to go this direction.

FreakDaddy 06-18-2005 03:59 AM

Re: HELP - I keep getting killed with AA
 
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You should have made it at least 4 to go pre-flop. Most people at this level will play crap hands when someone raises 3x BB pre-flop from MP, ESPECIALLY at 6 max.

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Sounds like a good reason to raise 3x.

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Yeah, but you don't want to play this against 4 people. If you really want to trap, then just limp this hand. Your not building that much of a pot by raising 3x and then allowing people to run into monster flops with their crap hands. Then you feel a little more married to the flop with it comes 993 and you bet and someone raises.

I think it's a much higher EV play to just play these hands standard against most party players. Raise big, get a caller or two and play the hand strong. To vary your play and make moves that are +EV you have to have observant and good opponents, which you're not going to find many of them on party tables. It's the old poker adage of - don't vary your play and change your game if the players you're playing against are strong enough to understand the basic concepts of poker, you're just throwing away money by doing this. Ocasionally you'll dupe someone for a huge pot, but more often than not you'll end up with a story like our friend in this post. Save your deceptive and game changing speeds for good opponents.

That's my 2 cents.

soah 06-18-2005 04:39 AM

Re: HELP - I keep getting killed with AA
 
He didn't play the hand against four people... he played it against two. When you're playing five-handed you only need to knock out a couple players. I'd rather have people calling my raises with K5o than to just steal the blinds whenever I don't run into a better hand.

FreakDaddy 06-18-2005 04:49 AM

Re: HELP - I keep getting killed with AA
 
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He didn't play the hand against four people... he played it against two. When you're playing five-handed you only need to knock out a couple players. I'd rather have people calling my raises with K5o than to just steal the blinds whenever I don't run into a better hand.

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I'm speaking hypothetically when I say 4 people. Raising 3x the blind will commonly get you 3-4 callers at 6 max. He didn't this time, he got two. That's good news for hero. I'm not being results oriented here, I'm just stating the typical scenario. All of our advice is contingent upon how the table is playing though. Are people raising more with monster hands, are they limping, are they over playing suited connectors, etc...

4x the BB is not going to steal the blinds and antes. You're more than likely going to get one caller, possibly two. Again, this is just typical and it's splitting hairs, but it does make a difference.

My advice is based on hero's question. Why are my aces being cracked? Bad luck? Peraps. Yet, perhaps he is slowplaying/trapping with them too much. So my advice is play them a tad bit stronger.

BobboFitos 06-18-2005 11:26 AM

Re: HELP - I keep getting killed with AA
 
once you're min checkraised on the turn you must go all in or fold.


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