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KKbluff 06-12-2005 07:12 AM

Re: LA Times Article 6/12: \"Poker \'Bots\' Are Upping the Ante\"
 
Strange thing that Golden Palace casino choose to associate with this.

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Rah 06-12-2005 07:13 AM

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Any poker site with brains in the security dept

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I'm pretty worried too.



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No kidding, and this too:

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Other sites don't care whether users are human, he said, because the house takes the same percentage of the pot no matter who's playing. But Bhargava said PartyPoker has 100 employees looking for robots, collusion among players and other scams

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What a bunch of BS. They are probably one of the worst among the bigger sites in this aspect.

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Not true. Yes, they probably are the site with most bots, but only because they are the most common target for bot makers. I haven't heard of any site who puts more effort into chasing bots (and banning accounts) than Party.

otctrader 06-12-2005 08:10 AM

Best part of the article
 
"Any person playing three tables simultaneously for 48 hours without a bathroom break, for example, or invariably taking exactly one second to bet, is not a person."

jason1990 06-12-2005 09:16 AM

Re: LA Times Article 6/12: \"Poker \'Bots\' Are Upping the Ante\"
 
What gets me is that the guy building the bot can't even beat the .02/.04 game. Wow.

Suppose some programmer knows nothing about chess but wants to build a chess program. So he hires a grandmaster to advise him and he gets to work. Very soon, the programmer will learn enough about chess to beat complete beginners, won't he? How can this guy spend five nights a week preparing his program for a competition and still be unable to beat .02/.04?

byronkincaid 06-12-2005 09:28 AM

Re: LA Times Article 6/12: \"Poker \'Bots\' Are Upping the Ante\"
 
I just sent this email

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Golden Palace Management

I can't believe you're sponsoring a group of cheating scum to improve their poker bots. These greedy bastards could ruin online poker for hundreds of thousands of poker enthusiasts like myself and also kill off poker rooms like yours. You should stick to buying cheese sandwiches for your cheap publicity. I and I'm sure many others will never play at your site unless you pull out of this stupid event.


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Uglyowl 06-12-2005 09:28 AM

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After two weeks of programming, Mages said, "I could sit down at a 50-cent table, put 50 bucks in the account, go to bed and wake up with at least $75." The most Mages said he won that way was $250; he never lost.

For two weeks this May, Mages sold his software for $60 a copy. After getting deluged with customer pleas for technical help — and a threat by one who gambled away $10,000 to send him the bill — Mages sold out to a business associate, Hong Kong engineer Ben Lo.

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Even the best poker player in the world "never loses". What a bunch of lies.

Funny that a bot lost $10,000...hahaha.

Uglyowl 06-12-2005 09:30 AM

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What gets me is that the guy building the bot can't even beat the .02/.04 game. Wow.

Suppose some programmer knows nothing about chess but wants to build a chess program. So he hires a grandmaster to advise him and he gets to work. Very soon, the programmer will learn enough about chess to beat complete beginners, won't he? How can this guy spend five nights a week preparing his program for a competition and still be unable to beat .02/.04?

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Great point... there are some very fishy parts to this article.

Adde 06-12-2005 09:52 AM

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I just sent this email

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Golden Palace Management

I can't believe you're sponsoring a group of cheating scum to improve their poker bots. These greedy bastards could ruin online poker for hundreds of thousands of poker enthusiasts like myself and also kill off poker rooms like yours. You should stick to buying cheese sandwiches for your cheap publicity. I and I'm sure many others will never play at your site unless you pull out of this stupid event.


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Good move. I'll send one too.

BTW, anyone know of a free service where I can create a form with predefined email message and recipient, and then people just have to enter their email to send it?

Adde

Rah 06-12-2005 09:57 AM

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Even the best poker player in the world "never loses". What a bunch of lies.

Funny that a bot lost $10,000...hahaha.

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The chances of having a losing session drastically decreases when playing marathon sessions with a winning formula.
Also, nowhere is it stated how many times he used his bot - did he use it two times and won both?
Finally, never trust a journalist. Their quoting is somewhat biased.

Adde 06-12-2005 09:59 AM

Re: LA Times Article 6/12: \"Poker \'Bots\' Are Upping the Ante\"
 
Email template if others want to send an email...

Adde

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To: Golden Palace Management ( admin@GoldenPalace.net )
Subject: Your association with www.wsopr.com

I can't believe you're sponsoring a group of cheating scum to improve their poker bots. These greedy bastards could ruin online poker for hundreds of thousands of poker enthusiasts like myself and also kill off poker rooms like yours. You should stick to buying cheese sandwiches for your cheap publicity. I and I'm sure many others will never play at your site unless you pull out of this stupid event.

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