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Scuba Chuck 06-07-2005 01:37 PM

Re: The kind of calls you need to make at the $215s....
 
I'm at work, so I don't have access to all my tools.

Curtains, my first thought is that this call isn't as wise on level 4, but since the blinds are so large now on level 5, that's really the kind of "kicker" that makes calling here correct with A2.

Also, the following is in response to another poster about the difference between calling with A2 vs 22. My hunch was that A2 is slightly ahead of 22 against this range. The results below.

Hand 1: 52.1956 % [ 00.48 00.05 ] { AA-55, 33-22, AKs-A2s, KQs-K2s, QJs-Q9s, JTs-J9s, AKo-A2o, KQo-K2o, QJo-Q9o, JTo-J9o }
Hand 2: 47.8044 % [ 00.43 00.05 ] { A2s, A2o }

Hand 1: 52.6932 % [ 00.52 00.01 ] { AA-55, 33-22, AKs-A2s, KQs-K2s, QJs-Q9s, JTs-J9s, AKo-A2o, KQo-K2o, QJo-Q9o, JTo-J9o }
Hand 2: 47.3068 % [ 00.47 00.01 ] { 22 }

curtains 06-07-2005 01:38 PM

Re: The kind of calls you need to make at the $215s....
 

Yeah but you cheated and included A2s with A2o

ilya 06-07-2005 01:46 PM

Re: The kind of calls you need to make at the $215s....
 
Why did you bizarrely exclude 44 from curtainz' pushing range? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

curtains 06-07-2005 01:48 PM

Re: The kind of calls you need to make at the $215s....
 
4's are unlucky to me, I never play them, I thought everyone knew that? I wonder what that would do to my ROI if I decided to fold pocket fours everytime no matter what.....how many ROI points would I lose?

Newt_Buggs 06-07-2005 04:56 PM

Re: The kind of calls you need to make at the $215s....
 
[ QUOTE ]
4's are unlucky to me, I never play them, I thought everyone knew that? I wonder what that would do to my ROI if I decided to fold pocket fours everytime no matter what.....how many ROI points would I lose?

[/ QUOTE ]
haha


I think that people are overlooking how +EV this push is. I mean, if Nick was going to fold A2 here that lets curtains push any two. Even with him calling with hands wider than A2 it seems like curtains can be pushing much worse than 10Js. At a $50 against a typical opponent i'm usually pushing any two here.

Nick B. 06-07-2005 05:13 PM

Re: The kind of calls you need to make at the $215s....
 
When I opened this up, I thought this was going to be a flame post. I haven't been playing that well, so I was doubting my decisions. I was close to a fold, but the fact that I would still have 400 left if I lost and it was a good player pushing on the button moved it to a call.

DonButtons 06-07-2005 05:18 PM

Re: The kind of calls you need to make at the $215s....
 
he turned into a actionmonkey type, I def. dont like sitting on actionmonkeys right...

raptor517 06-07-2005 07:24 PM

Re: The kind of calls you need to make at the $215s....
 
i dont like this call, even if i think yer pushing 70% of hands there. holla

durron597 06-07-2005 07:36 PM

Re: The kind of calls you need to make at the $215s....
 
He is getting 1505:805, or nearly 2:1. Against this range, he is only a 5% dog. Clear call.

equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 46.5513 % [ 00.42 00.04 ] { A2o }
Hand 2: 53.4487 % [ 00.49 00.04 ] { AA-22, AKs-A2s, KQs-K5s, QJs-Q7s, JTs-J8s, T9s, AKo-A2o, KQo-K5o, QJo-Q7o, JTo-J8o, T9o }

raptor517 06-07-2005 08:33 PM

Re: The kind of calls you need to make at the $215s....
 
sigh. when will people learn, that its not always about how +cev it is to make the call. holla


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