Re: I\'m all confused all of a sudden
 

You're "intuition" is off.

Or, you have caught the "push anything from anywhere" disease which seems to be sweeping this forum.

Re: I\'m all confused all of a sudden
 

I second your remarks.
As long as I can tell an opponent is pushing any two, which I very often can, I can profitably call with any A, K, 2 broadway cards, or pair.

Last night I caught a 43o with A3o. He wasn't desperate, but he thought I was. [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]

Sabre170

Re: I\'m all confused all of a sudden
 

You get to loosen up so much that you fold 70% of the time and you win 60% (your range against random) of the 30% of the times you call.

Depending on the situation, maybe you were both right.

Re: I\'m all confused all of a sudden
 

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Jeez this seems so foreign from the world of the 11's, where people will call with any face card, 98 suited, and the like.

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Not my experience. Is this because you tend to play at peak hours and I tend to play at non-peak hours, since I'm in Sweden?

I'd love to see figures on stuff like average VPIP/tourney level, buy-in level and hour of the day over a large sample of tourneys. Anyone has anything like that?

Does it differ as much as people often suggest here?

Re: I\'m all confused all of a sudden
 

Not sure what point you are making.
Me winning once makes up for 4 or 5 folds.

Sabre170

Re: I\'m all confused all of a sudden
 

If the blinds were high enough compared to your stack this wouldn't be true. There is another range of blinds where what you said is true, but it is still a good push considering the chances that the villian's any two hand will win.

You seemed to be vaguely indicting pushing with any two, so I was vaguely supporting pushing with any two.

But, I guess I was just being a troublemaker.

Re: I\'m all confused all of a sudden
 

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As long as I can tell an opponent is pushing any two, which I very often can, I can profitably call with any A, K, 2 broadway cards, or pair.


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Just because you are a favorite over a random hand doesn't mean it is profitable (in terms of $EV) to call.

Re: I\'m all confused all of a sudden
 

Which is better on the bubble with even stacks?

A. push from button with any 2, when everyone knows you will push with any 2

B. call from BB with top 35%, when button pushed with any 2

I agree it is a matter of style. You might even make a case for both, which takes playing the player out of the game entirely.

Sabre170

Re: I\'m all confused all of a sudden
 

If I have only 5BB or less, I should call with any 2.
Thanks for the discussion, I thought I was the one being the troublemaker.

I love to play against the "push with any 2" crowd.

Sabre170

Re: I\'m all confused all of a sudden
 

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I second your remarks.
As long as I can tell an opponent is pushing any two, which you almost never really can,

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ain't wishful thinking sweet

anyway, calling with something like A3o in the situation I described would be pretty bad. You would have to be sure that your opponent was pushing literally _any_ two cards before you could so much as break even $EV-wise.

not saying that you would, just pointing out that merely knowing your opponent is pushing very liberally often still doesn't mean you can call.