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Felix_Nietsche 01-27-2005 04:30 PM

Re: American Herd Mentality Loves Stereotypes
 
"I laugh all the way to the bank reading this, where I'm heading to deposit more moolah into my Euro-denominated account."
***Lets look at some facts.
Average unemployment rate in Europe is 10% and the GDP growth percentage of Old European countries like France is 1.7% and for Germany is 1.8%. WOW! That is better than Zimbabwe! As a matter of fact, Germany and France made the top 10 list of having the slowest GDP growth of all nations. Gee whiz, I guess I was wrong. I better transfer my investments to Europe...

Old Europe has been sliding for thirty years. Back in the 1970s Europe had a lower unemployment rate than the US and a much healthier GDP growth than they do today. Old Europe has been self destructing with pathological anti-business laws. Their Karl Marx-lite economic policies are killing Old Europe slowly.

I have data to back up why I think Old Europe is self destructing economically. Do you have data to back up why it is not? Or do you want to concede now that you don't know what your talking about?

CORed 01-27-2005 04:34 PM

Re: Ban the Swastika
 
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So is freedom of speech only good for Americans?

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Of course not. The American way is the only way. If Europe doesn't support our definition of "freedom" we should invade Europe and force them to accept our definition of "freedom".

Felix_Nietsche 01-27-2005 04:41 PM

Re: Ban the Swastika
 
Europe is not worth invading.
Perhaps a "Viking" like raid to steal all their best looking women and bring them back to the USA...... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

CORed 01-27-2005 04:47 PM

Re: Ban the Swastika
 
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Perhaps a "Viking" like raid to steal all their best looking women and bring them back to the USA

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Sounds good to me. But I think we should shave their armpits.

Felix_Nietsche 01-28-2005 04:54 PM

Ahhhhh.......The silence is deafening.
 
Once again Cyrus spouts off opinions without any supporting facts and once again he shows his mind is ruled by emotions and not reason.....

I'll throw down the gauntlet again.... Perhaps you can prove me wrong and show that you are able to back up your arguments with supporting facts...

Can you explain why Germany and France are in the top 10 for the worst GDP growth% in the world and yet you think Old Europe is NOT in economic trouble?

I won't be holding my breath for you actually back your claims.....

sirio11 01-28-2005 05:36 PM

Re: Ahhhhh.......The silence is deafening.
 
GDP Growht%

What kind of stat is that?

So, since Afganistan, Equatorial Guinea and Turkmenistan have a higher GDP Growth than the US, that means that their economies are in better shape. Please

zaxx19 01-28-2005 06:32 PM

Re: Ahhhhh.......The silence is deafening.
 
Old Europe is beyond help.....

Its native populations are at below replacement birthrates.
Their economic systems temporarily buoyed by European cooperation have now slid back into their old patterns of regression. And the Immigrant population continues to mushroom and without proper assimilation this will cause problems most Europeans cant fathom.

Old Europe is the new front of Islamic expansion.

Look for a new age of cooperation between the Arab states and Europe...conversely the United States trade with India will expand rapidly creating a new partner for North America. The Pacific Rim will be dominated by China and Japan will be the real loser in this restructuring.

Felix_Nietsche 01-28-2005 06:37 PM

Re: Ahhhhh.......The silence is deafening.
 
Nice try, but you can spin away the fact that:

Hi GDP growth % = GOOD
Lo GDP growth % = BAD

You can't spin away the fact that the two largest economies in Europe (France/Germany) have one of the worst GDP growth % in the world.

For countries with small economies, they can show an extremely high growth% in the SHORT RUN.... So comparing Afganistan's GDP growth% with the USA is not very useful. The USA has a mature economy while Afganistan does not....

Today, Germany and France have 10% unemployment and terrible GDP% growth.
In the 1970s they had low unemployment rates and good GDP growth.

Jeez....Don't tell me your going to claim these are signs of a healthy economy. Are you going to claim their economies have not been in a downslide since the 1970s. Please...

bholdr 01-28-2005 06:51 PM

Re: Ahhhhh.......The silence is deafening.
 
France and Germany can have poor growth and still not be in serious economic trouble at the same time because thier populations are actually shrinking.

why do you think "old europe " (an inflammitory and partisan, emotive term) IS in economic trouble, out of curiousity?


try to look at the whole picture before 'throwing down the gauntlet' next time.

zaxx19 01-28-2005 06:59 PM

Re: Ahhhhh.......The silence is deafening.
 
Bc it isnt an even shrink.

The numbers of working aged people is DRASTICALLY DECLINING. At the same time the numbers of older people continues to increase.

And the educational make-up of prospective workers in the future will be less than desirable. In socialist systems this is almost a sure recipe for disaster.


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