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WarDekar 01-12-2005 12:21 AM

Re: 4: Bending over not advised
 
TP, are you in school?

eastbay 01-12-2005 12:22 AM

Re: 200 from 200 then 200 at 200
 
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I'm going to write down 200 lessons I learn from watching $200 SNGs. Then I'm going to play 200 of them. I am currently playing the $30's.

[/ QUOTE ]

Jumping from $33 to $215 would be a terrible mistake. Are you really planning on that?

eastbay

adanthar 01-12-2005 12:49 AM

Re: 4: Bending over not advised
 
[ QUOTE ]
Level 2, ten players, stacks all ~T1000.
UTG raises to 90.
MP calls. Rest of the table folds.

Flop: T T 6

UTG bets half the pot, MP min raises, UTG calls.


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I post this same exact freaking hand in this forum (with reversed position and a low buyin, but close enough) and half of you are saying to fold AA.

THIS is why that's, like, the worst fold ever.

Texas Pete 01-12-2005 01:12 AM

Two answers in one
 
I'm in the school of the $200 SNG! I'm getting ready to pay my 30 buy-ins of (un-scared) tuition money.

Eastbay: since I think I understand at least some of what is going on and what the players are trying to do, it's not a mistake. On the other hand, I might not understand what is really going on. That's why i'm posting instead of scribbling in a notebook.

WarDekar 01-12-2005 01:14 AM

Re: Two answers in one
 
So are you in school? I ask cause I know someone with the nickname Texas Pete.

eastbay 01-12-2005 01:14 AM

Re: Two answers in one
 
[ QUOTE ]
I'm in the school of the $200 SNG! I'm getting ready to pay my 30 buy-ins of (un-scared) tuition money.

Eastbay: since I think I understand at least some of what is going on and what the players are trying to do, it's not a mistake. On the other hand, I might not understand what is really going on. That's why i'm posting instead of scribbling in a notebook.

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't pay to learn, I charge. That seems like a better deal to me.

eastbay

Texas Pete 01-12-2005 01:16 AM

Re: 4: Bending over not advised
 
I agree, at this level AT, KT, etc, are not going to cold-call an UTG raise on level 2. Hell, I don't even do that at the 30's.

Texas Pete 01-16-2005 04:38 PM

5: Not betting enough
 
Level 1, 10 players, stacks haven't changed much.
UTG+1 limps, followed by MP, and the blinds.

Pot T60
Flop K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Blinds check
UTG+1 Bets 45
MP Raises to 90
Table folds to UTG+1 who calls

Pot T 240
Turn brings 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

UTG+1 checks
MP bets 70
UTG+1 calls

Pot T380
River J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG+1 bets 150
MP calls

UTG Turns over A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
MP Wins with K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I think UTG+1 played this horribly, like there was
no real plan behind his bets.
First I would try to build the pot on the flop. I
would min bet or check here, to keep people in.

Second, if he's going to bluff at this pot, the turn
was the time to do it, when the board paired. That would
give MP something else to worry about besides the flush
draw. I think a big bet here would have folded MP. However, the question is, do you really want to play that way this early?

Then again on the river, UTG+1 must realize that bet will not fold MP, and UTG+1 has nothing to showdown with. A proper bluff at the pot requires a huge bet here.

Texas Pete 01-17-2005 03:25 PM

6: Early Aggression
 
First hand of Level 2, 10 Players, all stacks ~T1000.

UTG comes in with 175.
UTG+2 re-raises all-in.
Table folds to UTG who calls.

UTG had 99
UTG+2 had AQos

citanul 01-17-2005 04:09 PM

Re: 6: Early Aggression
 
Hey Pete,

First off, lemme say that at the rate you are going, if you just move up limits when your br allows, you'll probably be up to the 200s by the time you hit "lesson" 200. So all those hatas that said not to do anything crazy for br reasons, can stfu.

Second, I've been "following" your "lessons" for a while now, and really have been struck by some "what the [censored] is he thinking?" moments. What is lesson 6 here supposed to be? This hand you're quoting is abolutely not the norm at all for the $215s. Not the original raise, not the reraise, and not the call.

Perhaps along with your little trite cropped up hands, you could post what you're thinking more than "early aggression." Then maybe your posts would be helpful or something. Or perhaps people could help you. You never know.

Good luck and all, but at the moment, this stuff seems mightilly retarded.

citanul


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