Re: How Do You Like the Zoo without Affiliate Crap???
 

I am no longer adding players and no longer offering rake back. I have advertisements in real life that are still running, so yes, i am still signed up under tradel, but no, i'm not offering rake back.

So yes, er, you are dealing with someone on a pity pot [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Re: How Do You Like the Zoo without Affiliate Crap???
 

thanks for being honest.

regarding this:

You own an ad. I - used to - offer rake back. Hence we just put fancy arguements in with them but it all comes back to that.

yes it does come back to that. however, the real issue is that this is a privately owned site that operates on advertising revenue and i entered the game as a paying player. not only that, but i conduct myself here without drawing attention to my ads unless asked a direct question. certain affiliates never bought an ad, yet got way more advertising than i could ever hope for.

Re: How Do You Like the Zoo without Affiliate Crap???
 

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So are random, first time visitors to the zoo making the same amount from poker now as they would have been if they visited 2 weeks ago?


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Who cares? 2+2 has NO obligation to help "random first time visitors" get rake back. Or anyone else for that matter. The purpose of these boards is to let those interested in poker interact with each other to improve their game, not provide affiliates with a customer base.

There was one less page with 'threads active in the last day' than usual when I logged in today. That's how much of this crap there was on a daily basis. The board is better off without it. Thank you Mat.

Re: How Do You Like the Zoo without Affiliate Crap???
 

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Who cares? 2+2 has NO obligation to help "random first time visitors" get rake back. Or anyone else for that matter. The purpose of these boards is to let those interested in poker interact with each other to improve their game, not provide affiliates with a customer base.

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Hammer. Nail. Head.

NH

Re: How Do You Like the Zoo without Affiliate Crap???
 

Better yet, the TT crap is gone. Quite a relief!

Adde

Re: How Do You Like the Zoo without Affiliate Crap???
 

BOOOOOOOOO

2+2 is a worse place for want of "Loc: I own a castle".

Re: How Do You Like the Zoo without Affiliate Crap???
 

I have a question.

I know that spamming the forums was never allowed.

Has this new rule now gotten rid of the "i'm looking for a rake-back deal" posts?

Re: How Do You Like the Zoo without Affiliate Crap???
 

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I have a question.

I know that spamming the forums was never allowed.

Has this new rule now gotten rid of the "i'm looking for a rake-back deal" posts?

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I believe so, given that it was the majority of the problem in flooding the forum. Also, Mat said in his post "Those wishing to sign up under others can peruse the classified ads."

Re: How Do You Like the Zoo without Affiliate Crap???
 

Personally, the affiliate/affiliate seeker posts never bothered me. Very little of the content in the Zoo has ever been actually related to playing online poker. It has always been more about what is going on at various sites, which have what bonus, where the fish are, monitors, taxes, etc. It seems to me that discussions of affiliate issues/deals fits in with that.

I would not have gotten Party affiliate/rakeback if it were not for these types of posts, because I would not even have known such a thing existed.

I understand that they are considered spam. But spam is in the eye of the beholder. To me, these posts are no different (being-spam-wise) than the posts announcing the OIC (just advertising a poker site to me), or posts about some big name person making a deal to play at/work with a poker site
(just advertising a poker site to me), or anything to do with BW or casino whoring (just advertising an affiliate site to me). BTW, I don't have any problem with any of these. To me, half the stuff in the Zoo is spam or borderline spam. I just think it's strange to call all these things ok but get all outraged about affiliate posts.

Since there is obviously a large demand for these types of posts, it seems like the logical solution would be a separate forum or subforum.

Obviously, all this is just personal opinion. This is a privately owned, for-profit website, and if it is in the best business interests of the owners to not have these types of posts, or if that's just what they prefer, then that's all that matters.

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This is a privately owned, for-profit website, and if it is in the best business interests of the owners to not have these types of posts, or if that's just what they prefer, then that's all that matters.

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Exactly. This site derives it's revenue from the sale of advertising banners **primarily** purchased by the sites themselves, who offer sign up bonuses but no rake back.

The more clicks, the more revenue for the advertiser, the higher the advertising rates can go. How many clicks do you think were lost to affiliates here?