Re: commerce hand
 

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check calling the flop is weak. once this play is made the whole hand is out of whack. check calling the turn is even weaker.


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Thanks for the brilliant insight.

Justin A

Re: commerce hand
 

GOG was planning on making a move on the river when he misses, raisng the turn here is a big mistake.

Re: commerce hand
 

no calling the turn is a big mistake, a fold is in order.

Re: commerce hand
 

do you need insight spoon fed to you? i could make it more complicated but the answer is very simple. i play in the 10-20nl at commerce from time to time, (its generally not as good as the 5-10 at bike or 5-5 at hollywood) these set up moves with the big bet out at the end are fairly common and transparent.

Re: commerce hand
 

"These days, I think it's best to face him with that extra 1100, so despite it looking like you want him to fold, he's getting 3800 to 2600, as opposed to 2600 to 1500. Plus, the card is admittedly scary."

How do you get those odds? I have, $150 (preflop) + $400 (flop) + $1400 (turn) = $1950. Which leaves the guy with $2500 left, so a $1500 bet leaves the guy with $3500:$1500 odds or an all in gives $4500:$2500. I was wondering if there's any chance the bad guy would fold a flush to an all in bet on the river (I think GoG could credibly have a fullhouse with tens there, and then lead out all in) but the pot odds just seem too good for him to fold a flush. $1500 looks like a good bet size to fold out an ace if he's going to take this line. And actually now that I think about it, it might not be credible for GoG to have a set there, I think he'd probably playback on the flop, on that board.

Re: commerce hand
 

Despite what everyone is saying about you i find your posts great to read.


... it's just ashame you'll be bust soon [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] and then follow the trend and post only in the internet forum

Re: commerce hand
 

Who are you referring to 1800? Ambiguous.

Edit: I guess it was prop?

Re: commerce hand
 

Look at who he's replying to...

Re: commerce hand
 

i've never played on line. ill be at HP wed in the 5-5 cleaning up on the residue of the Phil Hellmuth invitational. stop by and mention 2+2. ill chat with you away from the table.

Re: commerce hand
 

When you look at his hand and that flop, the first thing that should pop into your head is "double-gutter, sweet!" If you didn't see that right off the bat, you should probably, I dunno, do some studying or something.

Just wanted to mention that.