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MoreWineII 08-26-2004 02:24 PM

Re: Bad night at Pokerstars
 
I don't even know where to start...

I can't do this, I just can't do it. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

MoreWineII 08-26-2004 02:41 PM

Re: Bad night at Pokerstars
 
[ QUOTE ]
ME: SB [Js Jd]
Player 1: Middle

4 limp in to see a flop, I can't drive anyone out so limp.

*** FLOP *** [9c 7h 4s]
ME: bets $2
All fold to...
Player 1: calls $2

*** TURN *** [9c 7h 4s] [5c]
ME: bets $4
Player 1: calls $4

*** RIVER *** [9c 7h 4s 5c] [Qd]
ME: checks
Player 1: bets $4
ME: calls $4

*** SHOW DOWN ***
Player 1: shows [8s Qs] (a pair of Queens)
ME: [Js Jd]
Player 1 collected $27 from pot.

I included this hand as it was typical of 2 previous hands I had just played.

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Wtf part 1. If you're going to play jacks like this then why not just fold PF? Let's say you DO decide to limp with them for some unfathomable reason. You then hit a dream flop and call, allowing chumpy to catch up? That's weak-tight to an extreme.

Hand 2 was just a tough beat.

Hand 3 3-bet PF. I like how you played it after that.

[ QUOTE ]
*********** Hand 4 **************
PokerStars Game #643638640: Hold'em Limit ($2/$4) 9 players

Player 1: UTG
ME: Early [As Ac]

Player 1: calls $2
ME: raises $2 to $4
Player 1: calls $2 w/ 2 others . 4 see the flop.


*** FLOP *** [Td Ah 4c]
Player 1: checks
ME: bets $2
All fold to...
Player 1: calls $2

*** TURN *** [Td Ah 4c] [Jd]
Player 1: bets $4
ME: calls $4

A caller becomes a bettor and I feel he has KQ for the straight to crack my aces, I guess I have 9 outs to a boat and the other Ace, does 10 outs enable me to re-raise?

*** RIVER *** [Td Ah 4c Jd] [7c]
Player 1: bets $4
ME: calls $4

*** SHOW DOWN ***
Player 1: shows [Ad Kc] (a pair of Aces)
ME: shows [As Ac] (three of a kind, Aces)
ME: collected $36 from pot

A few players were coming in with AK and AQ without a raise to trap others, the betting was relentless and pots were reaching $100+ every other hand. I had just had pocket queens cracked and 3 queens beaten before that. Should I have jammed the Turn and River here even if I thought I was behind ?

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Wtf part 2. What the hell are you doing here? You limp PF and then just call a raise? And because a guy bets the turn you feel that he made his gut-shot straight?! Let's assume he did, wouldn't he check-raise? Weak-tight again + poor hand-reading skills = missed bets for you.

Hand 5 raise PF. Yah I know CO had AQ, but just because he played his hand badly PF doesn't mean you have to. Post-flop you played it fine, don't be so results-oriented.

And I agree with arkady, get away from 'Stars and Paradise.

Analyst 08-26-2004 02:42 PM

Re: Bad night at Pokerstars
 
[ QUOTE ]
I guess I'll take a shot

[ QUOTE ]
*********** Hand 5 **************
PokerStars Game #643641572: Hold'em Limit ($2/$4) 8 Players

ME: Button [As Js]
Player 1: UTG
5 limp in to see the flop.

<font color="blue">Raise or fold preflop, probably raise </font>

[/ QUOTE ]

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Fold AJs on the button to 2-3 limpers??

bisonbison 08-26-2004 02:44 PM

Re: Bad night at Pokerstars
 
Naiss, with your bankroll and play, you should be playing the micros. I'm just trying to save you some pain: move down.

Drscheist 08-26-2004 02:49 PM

Re: Bad night at Pokerstars
 
Hand 4. You missed a turn raise--maybe you're tilting from those difficult beats you took. You could also just have reraised on the river.

MoreWineII 08-26-2004 02:52 PM

Re: Bad night at Pokerstars
 
One common theme I noticed throughout those hands is that you seem to be playing with the mindset of "How can I play this hand losing the fewest amount of bets?" when your thinking should be the exact opposite.

Garbonzo 08-26-2004 02:52 PM

Re: Bad night at Pokerstars
 
[ QUOTE ]
"Remember that line from Glengarry Glen Ross?"

http://www.uploadyourimages.com/img/681001capping.jpg

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Great F***ing movie.

Garbonzo 08-26-2004 02:56 PM

Re: Bad night at Pokerstars
 
[ QUOTE ]
I only started doing this badly after reading Small Stakes Hold'em. I think it is largely irrelevant to online play, especially the popular sites like Pokerstars and Paradise.

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Don't be a typical American, take responsibility for your actions. SSH is VERY relevant to on line poker IMHO.

bdk3clash 08-26-2004 03:01 PM

Re: Bad night at Pokerstars
 
Holy crap--I just noticed this:

The worst night I've ever had at Pokerstars, I lost $70 from my $140 buy-in.

Is this your entire bankroll?

Would you have played any of these 5 hands differently?

If $140 is your poker bankroll, then I would have played them like this:

[ QUOTE ]
PokerStars Game #66666666: Hold'em Limit ($0.25/$.50) 10 players

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sfer 08-26-2004 03:05 PM

Re: Bad night at Pokerstars
 
A Always
B Be
R Reloading

Always be reloading. ALWAYS BE RELOADING!


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