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tigerite 10-25-2005 08:13 AM

Re: how good is your average winning 109er???
 
No of course I don't play only AA or KK but I don't play every bloody hand either. I play decent hands with position and odds, and look to raise with good hands (not necessarily the best) in late position and limpers.

It also is very dependent on the table. Some I will play AJs in early position for instance, other more aggressive ones I will not, because obviously, these hands cannot stand a raise and what's the point in limping, if I'll just have to fold and lose 15 chips?

I play $55s and do very well thanks.

Melchiades 10-25-2005 08:16 AM

Re: how good is your average winning 109er???
 
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what stakes do you play for and whats ur roi at

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Yawn...

10-25-2005 08:17 AM

Re: how good is your average winning 109er???
 
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No of course I don't play only AA or KK but I don't play every bloody hand either. I play decent hands with position and odds, and look to raise with good hands (not necessarily the best) in late position and limpers.

I play $55s and do very well thanks.

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well then ive totally misunderstood your prior responses...i also play tight hands and raise in position....i was under the impression that you just sat out till or only played the nuts in the early stages...
i also playd and still play the 55s...we polly play similar styles..

tigerite 10-25-2005 08:18 AM

Re: how good is your average winning 109er???
 
But that's not what you said

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i always play everyhand and build a lot of my huge leads in the early levels


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10-25-2005 08:20 AM

Re: how good is your average winning 109er???
 
i meant i pay attention to everyone of my hands....i fold a lot of them.....

tigerite 10-25-2005 08:22 AM

Re: how good is your average winning 109er???
 
Ah, well, in that case yes I agree. Misunderstood the meaning, I thought you meant you literally played almost every hand. Mind if it's something crap like 94 off I'll often just click fold in the preaction buttons, lol.

Double Down 10-25-2005 08:24 AM

Re: how good is your average winning 109er???
 
This is what I do too. I wasn't trying to give the impression that one should limp with any 2 early on. I was merely arguing against the idea of playing really tightly preflop early on, not wanting to get involved in pots. This seems to be the preference of a lot of 2+2 SNGers because they're playing 10 at a time and usually just wait until they have a raising hand before they play.

And at the 215s, having 1500 by level 3 or 4 DOES make a huge difference, because by then you have a lot of stacks of 700-800 that you can push around.


In the future, I urge you to elaborate on your argument instead of just saying "utter crap." We're all here to learn and improve our game. If a subject has already been discussed to death, then I'm sorry that I didn't know about it, but every time I feel like responding to a post, I can't be expected to research it in the archives to make sure that I'm not repeating something from the past.

tigerite 10-25-2005 08:27 AM

Re: how good is your average winning 109er???
 
Well, doubling up or whatever early on helps there's no doubt about that. But you can still run into a short stack with AA/KK/QQ late on and have it screw up your ITM/HU/winning chances just as well as you can pick up AA/KK/QQ late on with a shorter stack, double up a few times and go on to win.

I don't think there's that much correlation between going into level 4 with 1500 and level 4 with 800 having as huge a difference as you think to winning. It depends more on how you play the stack in both situations. And how the cards fall naturally.

zambonidrivr 10-25-2005 08:34 AM

Re: how good is your average winning 109er???
 
maybe this is the problem

10-25-2005 08:36 AM

Re: how good is your average winning 109er???
 
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i always play everyhand and build a lot of my huge leads in the early levels..and in the later levels i always played it smart...

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Stanzee, is that you?


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