Re: Paradise double paid my neteller?? advice
 

Youre just being honest. As opposed to everyone else at this site that pays every penny of their taxes, returns all lost money and has never done anything wrong in the lives. Its an honor to be amongst this many saints.

Re: Paradise double paid my neteller?? advice
 

There is a difference between Illegal and Immoral.

Keeping the money may be illegal, depending on the contracts (terms and conditions) with paridise or neteller.

Morality is an individual thing. Posters here are telling the OP what the "right" and "wrong" things to do are. That is bullsh!t. I personally do not think that many types of stealing are morally wrong. It is the responsibility of a firm to protect its assets, if Paradise cannot do that, that is their problem.

If the OP doesn't feel it's wrong, then it's not for him.

Re: Paradise double paid my neteller?? advice
 

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Its hard to argue because we don't know the amount of the cashout. Would be different it was $50 as apposed to $2500?

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Right, you have to know the pot odds before you bet...
but in this situation I would always fold (give it back)

Re: Paradise double paid my neteller?? advice
 

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What you propose is no different than stealing something from a gas station when the only attendant runs outside to pump someones gas.

Do you steal at every opportunity?


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I'm sorry, but this is just retarded.

A multi million (billion?) dollar company totally screws up and hands you money.

Hold onto it for a bit, and then take it. Their fault, they eat the cost of the mistake. End of story.

By the way, something similer happened to me a while back.

Went to albersons, got some groceries with my ATM card at the self checkout stand, got 20 cash back.

The machine spit out two crisp clean hundred dollar bills. I calmly picked them up and left. Waited a few weeks, no one contacted me or anything, done deal.

A couple hundred or thousand out of this large of a company is abso-fukkin-lutely nothing. Take the money and tell the gods of luck "thank you."

Re: Paradise double paid my neteller?? advice
 

The amount it is does not matter.
The size of the corporation does not matter.
Try to justify it anyway you want.


I have done the right thing and notified paradise support to double check their recent withdrawls.

Just in case, I have included a link to this thread and the username of the OP just in case he uses a similar username there.

rJ

Re: Paradise double paid my neteller?? advice
 

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The amount it is does not matter.
The size of the corporation does not matter.
Try to justify it anyway you want.

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The legislators where I am from have a different opinion.

1. Stealing $5 is different than stealing $10000.

2. Taking $5 is different than accidently receiving $5.

3. Taking $5 directly from someone's wallet is different than taking $5 that you saw fall out of a wallet and is different still from taking $5 that you found in the gutter. (property vs. lost property vs. abandoned property)

Do you seriously believe that the size (wealth) of the corporation (victim) does not matter? Stealing one million dollars from a company that just profited ten billion would do nothing. Stealing one million from another corporation could be enough to bankrupt it and force everyone out of work. So size doesn't matter? Ever?

Are you really this 'black and white' with morality?

Re: Paradise double paid my neteller?? advice
 

This has happened to others on 2+2 and it always breaks
down into two groups. It's the same way when somebody
asks about taxes.(Yes vs No). If memory serves me some
have contacted the site and for their effort they got
a bonus or something thrown there way.

Some have taken the wait and see route and I know that
on at least some of them the site caught it's mistake
and took their money back. And I remember one player that
told the site about there mistake and they told him to
keep it since it was there mistake! I'm thinking that
that doesn't happen very much!

If it was me I would tell them and see if they will throw
a bone my way. Especially if you plan to keep on playing
on paradise.

Re: Paradise double paid my neteller?? advice
 

I do see where you are coming from.

As for the size of the corporation I still say it does not matter. If they are so huge, that the amount is insignificant to them then they have the right to say just keep it when you inform them.

As for the amount, i suppose it is different if its $5 or $1 million especially considering punishment. However, morally stealing is stealing. If it is the case of $1 million you just add more morality in the form of how much it is hurting the victim.

rJ

Re: Paradise double paid my neteller?? advice
 

Since its paradise, I would triple check your records to make sure it was not yours. Once you confirm its not your money, send an email explaining the situation. Paradise has a legendary doom switch, since you are honest, they should leave the switch on the good size extra long for you since you have been honest. You have a decent chance of making that money back being on their good side

Re: Paradise double paid my neteller?? advice
 

Kramer : It's just a write off for them.
Jerry : How is it a write off?
Kramer : They just write it off.
Jerry : Write it off what?
Kramer : Jerry all these big companies they write off everything
Jerry : You don't even know what a write off is.
Kramer : Do you?
Jerry : No. I don't.
Kramer : But they do and they are the ones writing it off.
Jerry : I wish I just had the last twenty seconds of my life back.