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i also raise out of the blind in unraised pots w/ anything playable.

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Can you gives some examples?

Also...

2 limpers, SB comes, and you have 87s?

1 limper, SB comes, and you have 44?

2 limpers, SB folds, and you have T7s?

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i also raise out of the blind in unraised pots w/ anything playable.

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Can you gives some examples?

Also...

2 limpers, SB comes, and you have 87s?

1 limper, SB comes, and you have 44?

2 limpers, SB folds, and you have T7s?

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depends on the players.
id prob raise them all... the 44 is automatic.

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because, its optimal.

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I'm pretty sure it's not.

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Tell that to Schneids or Nikla?

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Those extra points come mostly from increasing steals, defence, and isolation. .5/1 is not a very conducive environment to these types of changes.

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I think this is exactly right.

I, too, would love to be able to transform myself from a 22/17 into a 30/20, and I have tried occasionally to do that at lower limits; but I think the lower limits are precisely the worst places for this style.

As for those who wonder why we'd be interested, for me it's simply because it sounds like a lot more fun (and ego-gratifying) to be the intimidating force and also get to play a lot more hands. Still, I also believe that the difference between me and the 30/20 player is primarily blind defense (not even blind steals that much).

I suppose what I would really like to be is a 35/25 or a 40/30. Now THAT sounds like a good time, kind of like bungee-jumping (another thing I'm too scared actually to try).

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because, its optimal.

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I'm pretty sure it's not.

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Tell that to Schneids or Nikla?

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Schneids was a solid winner at 10/20 without the 30/20 style. Take a look at sxb (sbx?) if you want a newer example.

Krishan

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i also raise out of the blind in unraised pots w/ anything playable.

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Can you gives some examples?

Also...

2 limpers, SB comes, and you have 87s?

1 limper, SB comes, and you have 44?

2 limpers, SB folds, and you have T7s?

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depends on the players.
id prob raise them all... the 44 is automatic.

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Interesting.

Couple more...

3 limpers, SB comes, and a you have 76s?

2 limpers, SB comes, and you have 74s?

2 limpers, SB folds, and you have 65s?

You mentioned it depends on players... you are looking for weak or tight players that might fold to a follow up flop bet? You are usually betting most somewhat unconnected boards on the flop?

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because, its optimal.

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I'm pretty sure it's not.

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Tell that to Schneids or Nikla?

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C'mon. You can't be serious.

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Those guys are postflop monsters though.

I was under the impression that a lot of the extra hands from 30/20 come from looser stealing standards on the button and CO in addition to limping along more sometimes.

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I do it frequently, at games ranging from .5/1 to 5/10. It's quite fun and challenging as well. IIRC Daniel Negraneu used to have essays advocating this -- playing nutbar, I think he called it?

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It was nutbar. At the goal of the game was to play for x hours and break even. (not counting rakeback...that's a joke...)