Re: How\'s this? (ATo)
 

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You missed a value bet on the river

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Raise preflop as well.

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Re: How\'s this? (ATo)
 

Raise PF. Bet/Raise the flop. Bet the turn. Bet the river. Your heads up with TPTK.

Re: How\'s this? (ATo)
 

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Raising the flop would probably have caused him to fold after my turn bet.



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Actually, he would have probably folded PF. This is good because you have a drawing hand. If he calls, aggression is expected from you--you may make him fold with a bet or raise even if you don't make your hand.

Re: How\'s this? (ATo)
 

Raise PF
Raise that flop
Hand would have played differently from here on.

Re: How\'s this? (ATo)
 

g to the r to the u n c hizzle....

raise preflop, totally standard. against most vils raise any ace or pp here.

why arent you raising the flop? just out of interest? i raise here against most vils too, but if you have a good read then waiting for the turn could be more +ev

turn is good

when he pacifies on the turn you CANT not value bet that river, he doesnt have 2p enough times here to not bet.

Re: How\'s this? (ATo)
 

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I admit that this hand was crap, but normally my PF play is pretty good (according to my stats at least, VP$IP and PFR).



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I'd just like to add that your stats from PT won't tell you if your PF play is good or not. It'll tell you if you play too many or too few hands, but that's not the same as good PF play.

Re: How\'s this? (ATo)
 

PREFLOP:
With a poster in the hand, especially one you have position on, you can raise preflop with even more hands than usual. I'd probably open raise any ace from the button with the poster adding some dead money.

FLOP:
Raising the flop would face SB with a 6:1 decision. He would have to fold two clubs or a gutshot or call incorrectly. You allowed him to correctly stay in with some hands you could have got him to fold or pay you off with.

Re: How\'s this? (ATo)
 

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About the Flop and Turn. I got $1 + $4 out of him now. If I had raised the flop I would have got $2 + $2 out of him at max. Maybe he would have folded the turn.


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It's rare you see reasoning this blatantly results oriented. In this case (a card fell that didn't help your opponent AND your opponent bet the turn AND your opponent called your raise) you ENDED UP winning 1 more SB than you would have by raising the flop. Independent of this, raising the flop is unquestionably the right play. All of those things aren't going to happen every time and they certainly aren't going to happen enough to make the 1 SB profit worth risking loosing the pot.