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I call the river.

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So you said.. we still have him on 84o?

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I call the river.

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So you said.. we still have him on 84o?

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No it's sooooooooted, obviously. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I put him on overpair more than 1 time in 4.

I don't like raising turn or river. Raising scares away the hands he may have that you are ahead of, and costs you the more money/the showdown if you are behind, which is very likely here. If you want to continue with the hand on the turn, don't raise. Let him put more money in with his overpair. With his stats, and given the action, an overpair is possible but not exactly likely, and a weaker straight is very very unlikely. Therefor its either call or fold, and I don't think folding here against this guy is too big of a mistake, if one at all. With those stats, this guy's play screams nut peddled boat. Why would he make such a weak lead with overpair on the turn with an overpair on a board that scary in a limped pot? 88-JJ are possible, and he does have an aggression factor of 3, so calling him down seems somewhat reasonable. I think I may muck turn face up on a good day though.

There are lots of cards that would cause much grief on the river - I agree with others that would put him on 88-10 here (he seems to raise enough pf to be raising JJ+ here)

SO any 8,9,10 and maybe J+ if for some reason he limped with them are problems given the paired board.

I say he has 88 and puts you on over cards, possibly an over pair but bets due to his many outs even if you have a better pair. Once you called his turn bet he gets nervous and blocks river with the intention of folding to a raise (?)

I dont see him having any SC...maybe 77?

I guess I call down but feel I am seeing monsters under the bed here.

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed)

UTG ($241.80)
UTG+1 ($190)
MP1 ($309.10)
MP2 ($91.50)
Hero ($200)
CO ($466.85)
Button ($504.05)
SB ($200.75)
BB ($96.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $2, UTG+1 calls $2, 2 folds, Hero calls $2, 3 folds, BB checks.

Flop: ($9) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets $5, Hero raises to $20, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $15.

Turn: ($49) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $20, Hero calls $20.

River: ($89) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $40, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $129

Results in white below: 
UTG+1 doesn't show.
Outcome: UTG+1 wins $129. 
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Yuck.

I think you see an overpair here a lot.

flop action doesn't look like a set, maybe two pair or an overpair.

raising turn to $60 makes the river (if you get to it) so much easier.

and, yeah, relax a little.

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flop action doesn't look like a set, maybe two pair or an overpair.

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In what way?

call river. U need to be ahead here less than 25%...U are probably ahead here ~60%.

from my experience people that lead flops with sets like to three bet them on the flop ESPECIALLY when a lot of turns will kill their action and they are out of position. also who the hell would flat call the flop with a set then lead into you on the turn for 1/2 the pot? if they are getting "tricky" on the flop then they will continue to play "tricky" on the turn.