Re: Universal suffrage a good thing?
 

Compared to when, and politics on which scale? Claiming anything in this regard IS STUPID unless you define the terms, and even then, its slippery, speculative, and probably erroneous.

Re: Universal suffrage a good thing?
 

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poor and uneducated people are incapable of determining what their own interests are and that therefore smarter, more educated individuals ought to make certain choices for them.


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Why is this so mistaken? You haved judst rephrased the poster's point with pejorative adjectives and seem to assume it was some type of effective counter-arguement.

Re: Universal suffrage a good thing?
 

So you discount both Incoate and Lehigh's opinion then?

Re: Universal suffrage a good thing?
 

With or without the pejoratives, why would, in your model, "more educated individuals" make choices FOR these imbecilic peons? And how would these dirty stinking masses improve their lot in life if their interests conflicted with the more educated individuals? And how does "education" equal intelligence? I know of at least one trained monkey who achieved an incredibly high station in life, and graduated from Harvard and Yale. I certainly wouldn't want him determining my best interests.

Re: Universal suffrage a good thing?
 

I know of at least one trained monkey who achieved an<font color="red"> unknown </font> station in life, and graduated from <font color="red"> an unknown institution</font>. I certainly wouldn't want him determining my best interests.

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There, I like my version better.

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Re: Universal suffrage a good thing?
 

Your indefinite articles scream for pluralization.

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Your indefinite articles scream for pluralization.

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Scream away.

Re: Universal suffrage a good thing?
 

You realize you are asking your use of "an" to scream? Okay, just checking.

Re: Universal suffrage a good thing?
 

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poor and uneducated people are incapable of determining what their own interests are and that therefore smarter, more educated individuals ought to make certain choices for them.


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Why is this so mistaken? You haved judst rephrased the poster's point with pejorative adjectives and seem to assume it was some type of effective counter-arguement.

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You actually want me to argue why poor and uneducated people are capable of determining their own interests?

If that is the case, no amount of arguing will do the trick.

Do you also believe that the life of a poor and uneducated person is worth less than the life of a rich, educated one?

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On the plus side, if their horribly myopic ideas were somehow implemented, the vast majority of highly educated people act according to interests far closer to my own--no stupid religiously motivated social policy, none of the false economics of the so-called "conservatives," and less of the idiocy of the current Republican party.

Repeal Suffrage!

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I knew someone was going to make this post, shouldve laid odds on it via PM with someone.

Anyhow, on to my thoughts. Truth is, I didnt have any in particular, hence my post. I explicitly stated that I wasnt against universal suffrage. So there are a few people that posted in this thread that can safetly unbunch their panties now.

To those that actually bothered to read the post and make thoughtful responses, thanks. Sorry I dont have more to contribute.