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Victor 10-04-2005 04:02 AM

Re: Busting your friends?
 
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..."waive off my buddy with my eyes"...


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I see you doing this, I'm following you in the parking lot and kicking your and your friend's nuts. Think about that, you *%&#@^x.

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you are just as retarded as him. checking it down with friends hu is no big deal (to the rest of the table) and is NOT colluding unless in a tournament.

this is actually very common among regulars and has no effect on their opponents ev.

op should be criticized for failing to max his earn but not for cheating.

10-04-2005 10:21 AM

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you are just as retarded as him. checking it down with friends hu is no big deal (to the rest of the table) and is NOT colluding unless in a tournament.

this is actually very common among regulars and has no effect on their opponents ev.

op should be criticized for failing to max his earn but not for cheating.


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Sorry you feel that way.

Anywhere I've ever played, anyone I've ever played with, would/will tell you exactly what I told him. You nod your head, wink, or any other thing that tells me you're signalling your partner/friend/bud, that's collusion. Collusion is cheating. If my money is on the table and you cheat, you're gonna get your nuts kicked. Period.

And I really couldn't possibly care less if you think I'm retarded.

varoadstter 10-04-2005 10:23 AM

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You are colluding. You are a cheater. If you don't think this is true then you're simply in denial.

10-04-2005 10:47 AM

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and I "waive off my buddy with my eyes"


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This is cheating. Bottom line. Why dont you and your friend just say "hey, whichever one of us wins money off the other, the winner buys dinner and lap dances tonight."
This allows you to play him without colluding, and also gives you guys an excuse to not feel bad taking each others money.

10-04-2005 11:07 AM

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...winner buys dinner and lap dances ...


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Clearly a man with a plan!

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Guthrie 10-04-2005 11:27 AM

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Other caller folds... and I "waive off my buddy with my eyes"

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You should be busted for collusion and banned from all card rooms in Nevada.

Victor 10-04-2005 01:00 PM

Re: Busting your friends?
 
please explain how when these 2 check it down hu it affects your money or ev.

would you feel differently if they verbally agreed to check it down?

it seems to me that you are looking for reasons to get in a fight without really understanding poker or implications of certain actions. however, you are looking like an internet badass with a huge epenus. keep it up.

ask this question in b&m, and it has been asked many times, and all the older, more experienced posters will agree that there is really no problem with friends checking it down so long as they are hu and not knocking opponents out to get hu and not in a tournament.

Victor 10-04-2005 01:01 PM

Re: Busting your friends?
 
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and I "waive off my buddy with my eyes"


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This is cheating. Bottom line. Why dont you and your friend just say "hey, whichever one of us wins money off the other, the winner buys dinner and lap dances tonight."
This allows you to play him without colluding, and also gives you guys an excuse to not feel bad taking each others money.

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how is this not cheating under your guidelines. you are advocating that these friends split profits afterward. seems like clear collusion to me.

10-04-2005 01:23 PM

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please explain how when these 2 check it down hu it affects your money or ev.

would you feel differently if they verbally agreed to check it down?

it seems to me that you are looking for reasons to get in a fight without really understanding poker or implications of certain actions. however, you are looking like an internet badass with a huge epenus. keep it up.

ask this question in b&m, and it has been asked many times, and all the older, more experienced posters will agree that there is really no problem with friends checking it down so long as they are hu and not knocking opponents out to get hu and not in a tournament.

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You still don't get it?

I'll try it again. Slower. I'm not familiar with the techniques used in remedial reading classes, but I'm willing to give it a try. If your problem is comprehension, I don't know if I can help you there.

Friends, playing at the same table
knowing how each other is likely to play
will, often, in the interest of their friendship
"check it down."

If others at the table notice
and the above mentioned friends have appeared
to be playing in a straight forward manner,
not acting in collusion,
usually nothing is said.
While some at the table may not care for
the action of checking down, they keep quiet.

Notice carefully, if you're still with me,
I have not mentioned anything about signalling,
by head nod, hand or digit maneuvering, eye blinking,
yawning, belching, nut scratching or anything other body
movement/motion. The actions cited will/must be
recognized as collusion.
Collusion = cheating.
Cheating = nut kicking.

As to my penus. I have a theory about teeny-weenies who refer to my penis as a penus. But I think I've given you enough brain food for this session.

Oh, almost forgot - I do not consider myself a badass. I have, on occasion, and especially in my younger days, been known to act in a particularly nasty manner. I'm not proud of that and I try not to behave that way at this point in my life. But, sometimes nuts just gotta be kicked!

ZeroPointMachine 10-04-2005 02:23 PM

Re: Busting your friends?
 
So if the other player does call then what? Can I count on you not to waive your buddy off after the flop? I doubt it.

It's bad for the game anyway you cut it.


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