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Allinlife 12-10-2005 01:40 PM

Re: There\'s a third time for everything
 
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From a guy who has folded aces preflop does this really surprise anyone?

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hey don't go there buddy, that was a great story.

Jason Strasser 12-10-2005 01:54 PM

Re: There\'s a third time for everything
 
the big idea here is that tommy's brand of poker is more read-based than anything I, or you, have ever played. In a spot like this in my head, I might think in my head "hmm he may have AA but there is no chance I can fold in this spot". In tommy's head, if he thinks the guy has AA, he folds.

I do agree that Tommy's line about 'oh the chips will be there later' is dumb. That is certainly not justification for any fold in a cash game, assuming you are properly rolled and tommy is.

-Jason

Jason Strasser 12-10-2005 01:55 PM

Re: There\'s a third time for everything
 
He folded aces for different reasons. People play poker for different reasons than to maximize EV.

-Jason

ansky451 12-10-2005 01:58 PM

Re: There\'s a third time for everything
 
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From a guy who has folded aces preflop does this really surprise anyone?

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hey don't go there buddy, that was a great story.

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Linky?

ansky451 12-10-2005 02:00 PM

Re: There\'s a third time for everything
 
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He folded aces for different reasons. People play poker for different reasons than to maximize EV.

-Jason

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Like that time you folded kings full to that KGB wanna-be.

Allinlife 12-10-2005 02:16 PM

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From a guy who has folded aces preflop does this really surprise anyone?

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hey don't go there buddy, that was a great story.

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Linky?

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The worst play ever

Jason Strasser 12-10-2005 02:19 PM

Re: There\'s a third time for everything
 
That was too easy.

durrrr 12-10-2005 02:28 PM

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"Tommy; can you post some interesting concepts instead of just insane folds?"

I think insane folds are an interesting concept.

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mmmm ok. That's true (they are an interesting concept). I guess i want to see why you made them too; and you are either making an awful fold here (w/ the KK) or leaving out tons of information. While i dont need to see/hear this information (especially if its a specific tell live) I'd like to know its there so that I don't think your crazy. Also your line about "waiting for a better spot" is wayyy wayyy off base. I'd assume you realize this if only from reading a lot of 2+2. You should maximize every EV edge you have in a cash game supposing you are properly bankrolled (and I'd tend to believe you definitely are).

ansky451 12-10-2005 02:47 PM

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From a guy who has folded aces preflop does this really surprise anyone?

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hey don't go there buddy, that was a great story.

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Linky?

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The worst play ever

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How elegantly written. I enjoyed that.

Tommy Angelo 12-10-2005 03:13 PM

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"You should maximize every EV edge you have in a cash game..."

That is a meaningless sentence to me because I am unable to know the EV's of my decisions.


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